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Monday, August 25, 2014

A Police Officer On Lessons From Ferguson

Police Foundation President Jim Bueermann poses for a photograph in his office in Washington, Thursday, March 21, 2013. (Alex Brandon/AP)

Police Foundation President Jim Bueermann poses for a photograph in his office in Washington, Thursday, March 21, 2013. (Alex Brandon/AP)

A veteran police officer says both the shooting of Michael Brown and the aftermath in Ferguson point to the need for conversation about police and community in the U.S.

Jim Bueermann is president of the Police Foundation, a nonpartisan and nonprofit group that supports innovation and improvement in policing. Bueerman worked for the police department in Redlands, California, for 33 years, serving in every position, including as chief of police.

Bueermann tells Here & Now’s Sacha Pfeiffer that policing is a joint activity in which the community is a necessary partner, and police departments need to reflect the communities they serve.

He warns against prejudging in the Michael Brown case, saying that even unarmed civilians can be dangerous and that the public should wait for a full investigation of what happened.

But, Bueermann says once the shooting happened, officials should have been much more transparent about the case.

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  • it_disqus

    Is there video of the unarmed Michael Brown robbing a convenient store clerk? I’ve heard that and would like to confirm since it is not covered in this story.

    • The_Truth_Seeker(TM)

      Funny you should be writing at the exact same time I was.

      • it_disqus

        Funny how? I don’t find anything funny about news organizations who cover stories with an agenda.There are reports that there was a shot fired in the officers vehicle. Yet “news” organizations like this want to portray this as a gunning down in the street.

        • The_Truth_Seeker(TM)

          Where did you hear this “report”? There were also witnesses to what happened and the police officer never said there were shots inside the car, or that he was ever shot at. The guy didn’t have any weapon on him, when he was shot down holding his hands up. And what about that poor guy who was shot down by two cops that claimed he was coming at them with a knife, 3-4 feet away. The video SURE doesn’t show that! That’s a cover up, if there ever was one! What about all the police beatings now being caught on camera (including of women)?

          • it_disqus

            Google it. Surely you don’t get all your info from NPR?

          • The_Truth_Seeker(TM)

            I asked you to provide the links. Don’t have time to look at all the (defensive) rumor mills.

          • it_disqus

            In the time it took you to type that you could have Googled it. Ignorance is bliss….enjoy.

          • The_Truth_Seeker(TM)

            Like I said, looking at “crappy rumor links”, isn’t what I want to do with my time (so searching isn’t the problem). But, anyway, this is what police violence looks like (and costs!). Wish it would cost this (and even more) every time! And, sure hope these jerks lost their jobs, forever! We need to fire cops any time they do things like this and then try to cover it up.

            http://news.yahoo.com/thats-expected-shot-034912029.html

            See, I didn’t make you look it up – and it wasn’t even NPR!

          • it_disqus

            What evidence is there on this case in the link you posted? That was a crappy rumor link. Trying to draw a coloration with something that is not there. You seem to have your mind 100% made up about what happened? There was nothing in your link that provided any information into what happened on that street in Ferguson. Are you race baiting or just ignorant?

          • The_Truth_Seeker(TM)

            Don’t worry, the jury will figure it all out! Not up to you or me!!! How’s that?!

          • it_disqus

            Yes the jury will see all the information. The robbery, the beating of the officer involved and then they will make their verdict. Unlike you and H&N who have already closed the case to meet your desired view.

    • magic3400

      There’s a problem with that story though, which was obviously just an attempt to demonize Brown in the public’s opinion; Michael Brown appears to have paid for the cigars he was suspected of having stolen.

      According to attorneys for the Ferguson Market, where the hypothetical robbery took place, not a soul at the store called the police to report the robbery. Instead, it was a customer who called and reported that he thought he had witnessed a robbery.

      http://ringoffireradio.com/2014/08/michael-brown-paid-full-footage-shows/

      An excerpt of store security video shot from a different angle appears to show Michael Brown at a check-out counter paying for his cigars before the apparent confrontation with the store clerk, calling into question the police claim that he was stealing them. “It’s not clear why the clerk confronted Brown, and why the much larger 18-year-old shoved the clerk, if no robbery was involved,” writes William Norman Grigg of LewRockwell.Com. “One possibility is that the altercation occurred because the clerk ‘carded’ the 18-year-old, who was of legal age to buy tobacco products in Missouri.”

      http://www.drudge.com/news/181334/did-michael-brown-pay-his-cigars

      • it_disqus

        Yeah, Brown handled that like any upstanding citizen would have. What sources do you have that discredit the officers face being beaten?

        • magic3400

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          Aug 22, 2014 – CNN’s Don Lemon said that a source confirmed to him that while Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson did have a swollen face from a presumed scuffle, hiseye socket was … down Brown did not, in fact, suffer from a fractured eye socket. …a broken or torn eye socket came back negative,” Lemon reported on the …
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          Aug 22, 2014 – However, on CNN Thursday, Don Lemon reported that Wilson did not suffer a fractured or broken eye socket and was rather treated at the …
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          Aug 22, 2014 – … Wilson did not suffer a fractured eye socket prior to fatally shooting … CNN anchor Don Lemon reported on Thursday that Wilson did go to the… his face and eyes, but an X-ray came back negative for a fracture to his orbital bone…. So, let’s see: first, Officer Wilson might not have broken eye socket, but he …
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  • The_Truth_Seeker(TM)

    What about the poor mentally ill person who was also shot dead by police, and then they lied about him brandishing a knife, as the reason? Why isn’t the media covering that CLEAR police cover-up?? There was no reason they couldn’t have used a Taser against him, because both officers carried one, so at least one of them would have worked to stop him from doing any harm to anyone. Besides, it looked like he wanted them to kill him in an apparent suicide effort. Why would police officers cooperate with such a tragic plea? Why don’t the police actually try to HELP like this? Also, why do police officers shoot dogs that probably would never harm them, even if they just bark at them? They are wearing all kinds of body armor, and even if not, a dog cannot kill a person in 5 seconds. I’d like to get some answers to these questions from the, clearly, very timid (if not outright, cowardly) press! Mentally ill people need to stop being shot down in a hail of bullets by the police who should be trying to help and protect them (unless they are actually harming someone else).

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