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In Idaho, a Republican gubernatorial debate has gone viral. Governor Butch Otter insisted that two fringe candidates — Walt Bayes and Harley Brown — be allowed to join him and State Senator Russ Fulcher in the debate.
Those candidates ended up stealing the show for their bizarre and even offensive comments.
The primary election is Tuesday of next week.
SACHA PFEIFFER, HOST:
And now we go to Idaho, where a Republican gubernatorial debate is going viral. Governor Butch Otter insisted that two fringe candidates, Walt Bayes and Harley Brown, be allowed to join him and State Senator Russ Fulcher in that debate. But those wildcard candidates ended up stealing the show because of their bizarre and sometimes offensive comments. First let's listen to Harley Brown, defending some of his bigoted, ostensibly humorous remarks, which he's made about pretty much everyone.
HARLEY BROWN: I hate everybody - Jews, Polish people, Irish, Italians, religious jokes and black jokes. And by the way, my wife screened that. And we took the real hardcore zingers out. I don't like political correctness.
PFEIFFER: Brown also told the crowd he has a, quote, "masters in raising hell." When the issue of what to do about the wolf population came up, the other fringe candidate, Walt Bayes, said he'd once killed a wolf when they were still an endangered species, and here's how Bayes responded to the question of whether he could be governor.
WALT BAYES: I stand on principles. I went to jail for home-schooling. And my kids turned out pretty good. I had four sons that made pro rodeo cowboys and one daughter. We've got a state murder defined, and that murder includes the killing of a pre-born child. If I'm governor, I am going to enforce the law, and somebody says what about the Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court goes to hell, I'm not following.
PFEIFFER: Voters will decide who wins the Idaho governor's race in a primary this coming Tuesday. You're listening to HERE AND NOW. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.