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Thursday, June 7, 2012

Hate Speech From The Pulpit

A North Carolina pastor is using his pulpit to say gays and lesbians should be put in an electrified pen “to kill them off.”

And Pastor Charles Worley claims his sermons are rooted in the Bible. But Bruce Feiler says Worley and others who preach a similar message are cherry-picking Biblical passages to play to their base.

Guest:

  • Bruce Feiler, author of “Walking The Bible” and several other books about religion

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  • yoyo

    this is taken out of context. His point, while made badly, was not to “kill” homosexuals but to let the “die off” due to lack of ability to reproduce. While we bash them for bashing others lets get our stories strait and avoid from looking stupid.

    • Ayn Marx 666

      In times of massive budget cuts, can we really expect the food drops he suggested to the vile Sondomites  to be enough of a priority to be maintained at a decent level?  

      But your point is a good one:  we in the reality-based community should be scrupulous with the Truth, as it’s the only weapon not amenable to being bought by those who wish to own everything and everyone…and beside, his suggestion is at the same level of barbarity as killing them, so we need not exaggerate to achieve the same effect.

    • Laddmm

       Yes, his premise is ridiculous anyway because it presumes gays or only born of gays.  Helloooooo?!?!?!

    • Quizzical

      I’d be interested in your evidence that it is gay people who produce gay offspring.

      My hunch would be that it’s mainly heterosexual couples who have gay sons and lesbian children.

      So, following your logic, we should stop straight people having children.

      Can that be right?

      • Brian Hoover

        My folks produced a gay child.  My grandmother produced one, an uncle.  My mother’s sister and her husband produced one.  I think my sister’s son is gay.  Guess we got the gay gene (?) running through both my mom’s and dad’s genetic lines! 

        Perhaps we need to fence in all the heterosexual persons cuz they keep producing gay kids!  I wouldn’t mind is the fenced area was large enough.  I’m a flaming heterosexual.  Been married a few times & wonder if that’s going to be a big deal when I get to the Gate!

    • Worried about America

       Actually while 1 pastor did suggest fencing them in so that they would die off, the other stated that ‘the government’ should be responsible for the outright killing of homosexuals, but he wasn’t saying that we as individuals ought to do it (to protect himself form hate speech).

      FYI – so you don’t look stupid yoyo, “straight” is the word you were looking for. A strait is the narrow passage of water connecting waterbodies…

    • Ray in VT

      True, the one pastor did advocate fencing gays and lesbians off and letting them die out as opposed to just killing them.  Now, is that really any better.  He’s still saying that people should be rounded up and imprisoned for being gay.  That is pretty disgusting any way that you cut it.  I also think that his argument is founded upon faulty logic.  Do one roundup and get ‘em all, right?  It sounds to my ear as though he is saying that homosexuality is something is communicable, and if we just isolate them, then they can’t pass it on to anyone else.

    • Dave from Penna.

      Drrrr…. spell much yoyo?

  • J__o__h__n

    Will this story have a parental warning?  Certainly a real pastor advocating killing gays is more damaging to children than fictional gay characters in comic books. 

    • adolf

      queer hunting

    • http://twitter.com/madrona_8 madrona_8

      It does have a warning. She clearly says that there is hateful speech and that perhaps children should be cleared off  of the radio turned down

      • J__o__h__n

        I posted it before the show aired mostly to further my complaint from a few days ago. 

  • J__o__h__n

    I prefer the outright bigots to those who claim that they don’t hate gays and then seek to deny them equal rights. 

  • Chris in Pennsylvania

    I would question how many listeners of this program attend such a church.  It seems to me that intelligent and pointed discussion on NPR is not compatible with the unbelievable hatred spewed by those who hide their bigotry behind Christian dogma.

  • Matt

    I think it’s disgusting. I saw the video on YouTube. And he is a pastor??? I will never move to the south!! If they were true Christians you would be able to see it by their love.

  • Paul James

    I understand that many, for reasons of religion or not, are against homosexually… but I dont really understand how the church, which should preach tolerance, acceptance etc. takes an issue like homosexually and condems it.  From what I remember as a kid, going to sunday school, all sins are equal in the eyes of god.  Why is homosexually such a topic, but divorce is not?  Divorce is a sin correct?  Infidelity?  any other sin…

    • Maggie

      According to the Bible divorce is only justified when adultery has been commited.  The role of the Church is not to preach tolerance but to preach the Good News which is salvation by grace through faith in Christ.  Christ didn’t preach lets all hold hands and sing Kumbaya but to repent from any and all sin, he didn’t come to make us” good” (as superficial as this term is for most of us) but to reconcile us to a loving God, a loving and holy God.

      • Legbild

        Matthew 5 was not about redirecting people from an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth?  Loving their neighbor as they would love themselves?  Doing more than someone would ask of you, turning the other cheek?   How would you describe of define Kumbaya?
        “A loving God” is in opposition to Kumbaya?    Kumbaya means and symbolizes what?

  • Mike from Rutland

    Putting people in fenced areas because of what they are?  Sounds like Japanese internment camps?  How did that turn out?  Noticeably the predominant areas where these hate-speeches are coming out from are areas where they “cling to guns or religion.”  Slack-jawed yokels who believe more in outdated texts instead of science and are willing to kill those who disagree.  If you disagree with a Democrat, they’ll generally discuss their differences, or tell you to shut up.  On the other hand, if you disagree with a Republican they’d rather put fingers in their ears and threaten to kill you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/malariesusan.gold Malarie-Susan Gold

       I would have said concentration camps.

  • Ayn Marx 666

    I have to admit that it feels grimly satisfying to hear that some people are exactly as vile as I suspect them to be.  I have to remind myself that in a nation of some 300 million people—and far too many people preaching to them, in my arrogant opinion—there will always some outliers, and that in a world where we can’t attack those who actually anger us on a daily basis, be it a boss or a co-worker or a politician or a rich donor or a dear one or that guy who cut us off on the freeway on-ramp yesterday, it’s expectable that some will find an outlet in hating the people they’ve been told it’s righteous to hate.  This is the same as the extent to which there seem to be many who are eager to torture regardless of whether it helps us, or imprison for long terms in terrible conditions…justice cries out to them that someone on someone’s official “Unworthy” list have it bad, even if it ends up hurting themselves.

  • Tom Hines

    Jesus never says anywhere in the 4 gospels that we should kill. Ghandi said it best: I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians, they are so unlike your Christ.

    • Guest

       Thanks, Tom. This is a great statement and so true.

  • Morgan

    Just want to point out that the second clip, which claimed that Israel is killing gays is completely false. Have visited Israel last summer I know for a fact that it is a very gay friendly country. In fact NPR had a story just a few days ago about how Tel Aviv is marketing itself as a gay heaven. People don’t seem to understand that even though israel is the holy land, they are a modern and extremely accepting country as long as you don’t try to create conflict with other groups.

    • Kathy

      They mean ancient Israel, the mythological one in the Bible. 

  • Bill Meetze

    The pastor has it exactly backwards:  the Bible clearly states that Jesus would have suported gay marriage.  Leviticus 20, which condemns homosexuality actually lumps it with 15 different versions of heterosexual immorality, including good old fashioned adultery.  Jesus himself considered remarriage after divorce to be adultery – a much larger danger to the family than homosexuality.  In Matthew 23:24 the says “You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.”  Jesus would say if you allow remarriage, you must allow homosexual marriage.

    • Joy

      Well put. I was raised in a very conservative home and try to live my life to please God. That said, if one wants to fence off or kill all homosexuals, you would have to do the same for liars, adulterers, those who covet what others have. All are sin according to the Bible. It is man who wants to say that one sin is worse than another, not God.

  • Ellen Dibble

    I’m curious if Bruce Feiler has anything to say about hate coming from the Muslim side, especially in light of the new book by Tom Holland, “In the Shadow of the Sword,” which I haven’t read yet, but is said to explain in what I’ll call “political” terms from the increasingly rigid orthodoxies of Christianity and Judaism, written down a hundred or so years after the events, turned into the necessary seed ideas and stories that could form a new whole.  What do Muslims say about that?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Rice/100000693874282 Joseph Rice

    For these people, like those in the Westboro group, I question whether  there is real religious sincerity, or whether they just sincerely want attention by doing these things to push everyone’s (well, rational people) buttons.
    As for the purported 4-year-old’s anti-gay song, that is patently a manipulation by the parents, rather than any sincerely spontaneous  expression on the child’s part (and if not instigated by the parents, social services should be called in to investigate why a child of that age might raise this issue on their own).

  • Kathy

    While I found the rantings of a few genocidal bigots disturbing, I found the guest’s soft pedaling of this far more disturbing. These are dangerous maniacs, not just people who want to feel there’s somewhere they can be with other people care about the Bible.

  • Guilfoyle20

    Your guest misses the point  when he gives these churches a pass “people like to be able to be with like-minded people – even if just for an hour, and they know that when they leave that church that the culture as a whole doesn’t agree with them”.  What they are doing in that church is mindlessly following hateful cherry-picking by a minister ought to know better, and it DOES affect the way those people interact in the world outside their church.  These ministers’ behavior is a ‘hate speech wolf’ in sheep’s clothing, and it is every Christian’s duty to repudiate this.  Also, whether Muslims repudiate their own internal hate speech is really beside the point.  We Christians need to keep our own house in order before we throw stones at the Muslims…

  • Laddmm

    I appreciate the outrage people feel for anyone who advocates putting people behind fences and essentially cutting them off from the world.  Where is the outrage for the Palestinians in the Gaza strip who have been under exactly such circumstances.  Nobody seemed to care when the Israelis built a fence around them in the 90′s.

  • Phyllis D Stutzman

    there are peace demonstrations in the U.S. and around the globe crying out against war, and calling for peace.  Popular media, including public radio, rarely mention the peace movement. Has there ever been a ten to twelve minute discussion with an “expert” to elucidate what peace is, who is interested in peace, etc.  Meanwhile a pathetic preacher who blusters hate is well “rewarded” with a mass media bully pulpit.  No wonder his speech and views “go viral.”

    • not-a-sheeple

      Obviously you don’t listen to NPR or Public Radio, Phyllis, because they cover peace movements, Arab Spring (which is not a peace movement, per se, but it is a movement in the right direction IMO), etc. regularly. Anyway, is there an expert that can define what peace really is??? Just wondering.

  • Elizabeth in RI

    Sadly as your guest said, this is not unusual in American history – all sorts of what we now recognize as unacceptable behavior was promoted from the pulpit. It is ironic to listen to in light of how opposed to radical Islam these same cleric’s are likely to be – and how much like Islamic radicals they sound.

    Thank you Here & Now for affirmation of how important the SEPARATION of church and state truly is. We need to keep religion OUT of politics!

  • Harry Johnson

       You are always going to find a few bad people in different walks of life who are going to put our 1st amendment risks by upsetting people so much that they will want to limit their free speech. This runs from this preacher to Howard Stern.
       NPR has done and  is doing the same thing with attacks on the religion, such as this one. When you pick out and write a story on a bigoted religious person, it gets people looking at how we should possibly deny both freedom or religion and speech. When you are attacking/questioning religion and free speech, you are putting out Constitution at risk and our rights as established in the US Constitution are all that keep us different from a communist state like China. Please promote the good about religion as there’s much more good than bad since it’s been our country’s main moral force since its inception.

    • J__o__h__n

      No one is denying this idiot’s freedom of speech.  They began the segment explaining why it is constitutional. 

      • Mimosa22mim

        For several years, NPR has aired a program first called “On Faith”, and now called “Being”, with Krista Tippett. This program is all about religion and spirituality. It incorporates some of the most intelligent discussion on these subjects that can be found anywhere. In my opinion, NPR does not do faith-baiting; what it does do is bravely and honestly shine a light on speech and behaviors that may otherwise not be brought to the public’s attention. I, for one, had not heard Pastor Worley’s hateful rhetoric on the subject of homosexuality, and I appreciate NPR enlightening me on what he has said.
        There is plenty of coverage and attention given to the good about religion, everyday, in numerous venues. Christians are not being persecuted, nor is Christianity, and I did like Ghandi’s quote posted above.

        • Mimosa22

          Actually, this comment is in reply to Harry Johnson’s post above. There is a strange little empty box in the middle of the comments page on my screen that I can’t get rid of, and which interfered with the reply function when I posted, and also blanked out and interfered with the entry of my screen name causing that to appear incorrectly. 

    • Kaligaclark

      The problem with the good about religion is that religion has been taken over by bigots like this and the true believers let them get away with it.  They should get up and walk out of these churches IMMEDIATELY!  People from other churches should condemn this kind of hate speech from the pulpit!  Instead, I only hear about why they should be defended.  Leaving a church that preaches hate does NOT deny free speech it teaches consequences of hate speech!

    • Kaligaclark

      NO body is saying to write a law banning their free speech (which is what first amendment says)!  The problem with religion now is that there are few good stories to tell anymore.  Instead of people leaving this church to go to one that does NOT preach hate, they stay.  Instead of condemning this hate speech, people defend their free speech rights!   One of these days the good religious people need to come out against the hate-filled religious people or that is all that people will know!

    • not-a-sheeple

      Attacking or questioning religion is free speech. Anyway, how do you see this an an attack on the church? They are reporting the news. The Westboro Baptists and this disgusting excuse for a pastor teach hate and “we the people” should understand what is being spewed from the pulpit. If it was only this church, I would tend to agree, somewhat, with your comments. But since there are churches like Westboro going to military funerals and putting themselves out there, they are fair game. I totally disagree with you on the church being our main moral force. Morals are subjective. I don’t need the church to understand right from wrong. Having grown up Catholic, I can see what is wrong with what it teaches and what it lives…allow priests to do as they please and when they get found out send them to another country to hide their misdeeds. 

  • Katchooluvspugs

     I just watched the “Pastor who wants them in fences”  on You Tube.   He is expressing his opinion to his congregation.   That is his opinion. I am not saying I agree with his opinion but I believe he has the right to say his opinion.  He is against homosexuality.  Some people are.  It seems to me that if a person expresses a different opinion on Gays/Lesbians, Mulsims, etc…they are quickly chastised or a story is told on HERE AND NOW.   People have the right to disagree.  I wish HERE AND NOW would present both sides and let the listeners make up their own minds.  Why didn’t you interview the Pastor?  After viewing the Pastor myself, I believe that HERE AND NOW presented alot of his words out of context. 

    Freedom of speech should not be one sided.   

    • Kaligaclark

      Was there a law written that banned his right to spew his hate?  NOPE, so his first amendment right was NOT denied.  Try reading the Constitution!  As long as real christians let these yahoos be their voice then people are going to turn away from christianity!   The people in this church and other churches should condemn hate speech from the pulpit!   Otherwise, that is the image people will have!

  • Legbild

    No, homosexual couples cannot reproduce, but what kind of couples produces homosexuals?

  • John T.

    If Churches want to be politically active, it’s time to tax the.

    • Kaligaclark

      EXCATLY, there was a story last night on NPR about the catholic church in MN giving 850,000 to promote a doma type bill.  How is that NOT against their 501C3 status?  Shouldn’t they lose their tax exempt status for that?

    • Terry S. Bradley

      Tho I do agree, I must question?  Coming from a small town and since government
      is intent on disowning its people, 
      cutting all aspects of what we thought would be a reliable income to
      help when retired or in hard times such as we are now. If churches were taxed
      would they be able to help the communities in which they dwell.  Sadly government is failing to see, We The
      People! It is true that, for any true person of God it is disgusting to preach
      hate of another.  In a since the taxations
      of churches would surely leave We The People with no place to turn as government
      thinks only of its self. Tho remember We The People also make up the churches
      and must stand against all disillusion’s  “Nubbiebee”

      • http://www.facebook.com/malariesusan.gold Malarie-Susan Gold

         Terry, if they want to preach politics tax them, if they don’t they stay tax exempt.

  • Jackwynne

    Why can’t Feiler answer Robin’s question about what it feels like to be in a church where preachers are saying this kind of stuff?

  • Shastajo4

    As a Christian and a therapist I have heard arguments for both sides of the homosexual argument. However, anyone who has ever spent any quality time with someone from the LGBT community would know that homosexuality is not a choice. These are good people who God and Jesus love as well.

  • Bo

    A North Carolina resident: the pastors spewing this hate are no different than the Muslims ‘preaching’ death to all Christians. Full disclosure….I voted against Amendment 1

  • Dypstick

    Here is it is straight from Jesus’ mouth:

    Matthew 22:36-40
    New International Version (NIV)36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
    It is pretty simple. Love the sinner, hate the sin. I believe homosexuality is wrong, but I have several good friends who are gay. I think of myself as a good guy, but I do things that I consider a sin. Everybody has sinned. The message of the Bible is of the redemption power of Jesus, anyone who uses it to condemn certain people are misusing the Bible. On the other hand, I don’t believe, as another commenter said, that Jesus would embrace gay marriage. He would condemn the sin, but embrace the sinner.
     

    • J__o__h__n

      Homosexuality is no more a sin than lefthandedness.  Marriage rights should be determined by civil authorities not mythological figures. 

    • not-a-sheeple

      Because you believe homosexuality is a sin, does not mean it is a sin, it is just what you believe. Others do not agree. But, at least you live and let live.

  • Amandaweglinski

    I am a born again Christian and very disappointed in these preachers.  The Bible does teach that  homosexuality is a sin, no different than my gluttony or  jealousy.  However, Jesus Christ is love and as Christians we are to love the person and not love the sin.

    • not-a-sheeple

      No, you interpret the bible to read that homosexuality is a sin.

    • not-a-sheeple

      …your interpretation of the bible doesn’t mean that homosexuality is a sin. It only means that is how you read and understand it. What you believe and what others believe are not necessarily the same. So, in fact, homosexuality is not a sin.

  • Marilyn

    II wonder why these hate mongers call themselves Christian when they quote the old testament. Christ said he came to overturn the old laws. Also, Jesus said anyrhing we do without live is like we are a like s hollow gong. So where is their love?

  • Fewhawk

    I do not feel that Robin is listening to what Bruce Feiler is saying.  The Pastors are extreme and not the norm amongs Christians.  Yes, what they said was wrong…but Mr. Feiler is correct that churches HAVE always been involved with the “hot topic” of sociaty and he is also VERY correct in the fact that homosexuality is no where near the issue that slavery and civil rights were, because (right or wrong) there is more acceptance to homosexuality.  Robin needs to listen and learn from her guest and get over the youtube of these few Pastor comments.  I have learned from the guest, I wish Robin would also. 
      

    • Brian Hoover

      The Mormon church contributed multiple dollars in California regarding the states’s ultimate winning proposition banning same-gender marriage.  The Catholic church is now preaching from the pulpit against same-gender marriage in the state of Washington.  These are not a few wild-eyed zealots, but such activity gives implicit or explicit cover for the zealots already out there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ChrisCox.Harvin Christien Cox-Harvin

    Micah 6:8New King James Version (NKJV)
    8 He has shown you, O man, what is good;
    And what does the Lord require of you
    But to do justly,
    To love mercy,
    And to walk humbly with your God?Somewhere along the way we’ve, as a species, decided to forget the most important thing … MERCY, as a gay man, and a spiritual person I use mercy to forgive this kind of hatred.

  • Davdi Daly

    The Nazi Final Solution tried to kill out gay and mentally ill types that were at odds with the Aryan Ideal.It didn’t work.  I loved the Pontius Pilot approach of that preacher that wants the gov. to kill gays. Once again, religion shows us the moral high ground.

  • http://twitter.com/Ransom_Bennett Ransom Bennett

    Having taught Biblical studies for 20 some odd years from Sunday School to seminary, I have found this one thing true:  There will always be a fringe group who will espouse extreme religious views from both right and left.  I used to see a bell curve of people who took the Bible literally, but not seriously (conservatives; such as the two the show referenced) and those who took the Bible seriously but not literally (liberals; such as Rev. Wright and other).  The majority in the middle just muddled through trying to do the best we could.  This has changed over the last decade into a bowl curve in my opinion.  As the conservatives perceive the government dictating religious practice (healthcare, entitlements) people are looking to the more conservative to lead them, because of their definitive position.  The same for the liberals.  As they perceive conservatives as uncaring and callous, a group to voice their concerns will grow and draw a following.  Unfortunately, neither side are caring, neither side are Biblical.

  • Faye

    You asked the question: what would Jesus say about the ‘hate’ language from the pulpet. I believe Jesus would not approve of the harsh language inferring that we should ‘kill’ anyone.  The Bible does say for this lifestyle that God “turned them over to a reprobate mind.” The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were punished for this lifestyle. People know when they are going against God – no matter what the sin is – and at the judgement seat of God – it will be Jesus who punishes appropriately.  We are not to judge in this lifetime – we are to follow the example Jesus gave us.

  • Kaligaclark

    These same churches condemn the taliban, when if you listen to their speeches, they sound EXACTLY the same!!!

  • Worried about America

     I don’t see anyone suggesting we limit free speech here – just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy and reason for maintaining that other fundamental part of the 1st amendment  – freedom for and FROM religion!

  • MTbob

    How can the interview not have referred to the answer to Robin’s question in regard to Jesus’s response reported in John Chapter 8, first 11 verses, to a severe case of sexual misbehavior as it was in the law. I’m not particularly a believer, but I know this much anyway.

  • Brian Hoover

    I now know why the Mormons, Catholics and the evangelicals are so rabid currently against same-gender marriag, which by the way is not a religious issue but a legal/governmental matter.  (More on that later.)  Bruce pointed out that they are so annoyed outside their one to four hours per week celebrating with their like-minded persons.  I also believe that leaders whether in Rome, Salt Lake City or elsewhere, need a boogeyman to keep their flock stirred up (thus leading to following the leader’s repugnant agenda) and keep those dollars (contributions) flowing in.  The boogey man thru American history was an Indian, black, Asian, then influx of European immigrants, Commies, women who might want to vote or have pay parity, and now our gay brethern.

    The marriage issue now in the US is a legal/governmental matter.  Listen carefully the next time you happen upon a ceremony…near the end of the religious or secular event the official will utter “By the power vested in me by the state of (insert STATE name) I now pronounce…

    And days or weeks prior to the event, where did the participants go but to a governmental office to secure a license to marry!

    Same situation if the union fails, all fifty states have their separation and divorce rules.  Legal/governmental! 

    It is possible but scheduling might prove difficult for every soul who marries in the US to do it NOT in a religious setting/building, but down at the courthouse.  It is NOT a religious issue.  (It is just religious persons of certain notions that want you and me and all of everyone else to HAVE TO adhere to their world views!) 

    Interestingly, in 1967 16 states had their anti-miscegenation laws invalidated by the US Supreme Court.  The case rose in Virginia where the law (Racial Integrity Act of 1924)* banned marriage between a white and a black.  As you could easily guess, the 16 states were all in the South.  However, between 1948 and 1967 14 other states had similar laws on their books banning whites from marrying Asians or Native Americans.  For some reason between 1948 and 1967, voters, legislaturers or state courts changed their repugnant minds about such marriage bans.  (the case is LOVING V. VIRGINIA 388 U.S. 1.) 

    Today 30 to 32 US states ban same-gender marriage.  Ironic, huh?  Nearly the same number as existed re race in 1947!

    Now with DOMA under attack in federal court and the California ban eviscerated by the federal court, it will be very interesting to see how the right-wing members of the Supreme Court view same-gender marriage.

    * Isn’t it interesting that the various state laws banning same-gender marriage have similar high noble sounding names attached to their laws or referendums? 

  • Ldrjqh

    Jesus never said anything about homosexuality either.

  • Faye

    “mem with men’ and ‘women with women’ – daaaaahh !!!

  • Terry S. Bradley “Nubbiebee”

    We live in a society that promotes every child should have a
    fair chance in and at life!   Yet we have
    preachers standing up and saying cage the gays or kill them.  This is pure madness!  Save the unborn child; ear regardless of cost
    to child, mother or society.  Unless turning
    out to be different or gay. Then you are simply to turn your backs or kill them
    as if they were not human at all.  People
    are not to be treated this way by any one!  
    God says thou shall not kill!  Not
    kill them and call yourself Godly.  It is
    that mentality for which God will come back for vengeance. “Judge not less you
    be judge says the lord for vengeance is mine!”   It has been said you can’t help who you fall
    in love with.  Would it not apply the
    same in respect that you can’t help how you are born Gay or Straight. Grow Up America
    ,Open Your Minds before you have to face your own burdens

                                                       
    Terry S. Bradley “Nubbiebee”

  • Lorrihz

    In the case of the child recorded engaging in hate speech, would that not be considered a form of abuse? It will have effected that child’s future in a very real way. The child will never, now, be presedent or hold public office. ….or be considered appropriate for many jobs in business or public service.

  • Ader14213

    How can people call them selves Christian and be so full of hate? And then to teach their children that!  Unbelievable. Christ would have to be crying over this – such small minds and small hearts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/grok558 Minister Grok

    Sad how Christian can say such hateful stuff. It makes me extremely sad.
    http://www.cyiworldwide.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/grok558 Minister Grok

    Here is how Real loving Christians address the subject
    http://my.blogtalkradio.com/grok558/2012/06/08/truth-be-told

  • Roxanne

    This comment is in reference to today’s conversation w/ Bruce Feiler regarding the story “Hate Speech from the Pulpit.”  What was missing from the conversation was one main point:  the sexual rules set down in the Bible had to do with one thing and one thing only–procreation, which was of utmost importance for survival of the species at that time.  “Wasting one’s seed” was the sin, and men lying with men wasted the precious seed, so it was a mortal sin, punishable by death.  Women lying with women had no seed involved, so it may have been a sin, but it was not seen as a mortal sin.  These were laws laid down to keep people in line in order to keep people procreating.  We have interpreted this as some sort of moral issue, which if we would just look at this as a simple necessity of that time, we could get over these hateful speeches from the pulpit.

  • Alfred

    Pity the poor gay.

  • Homo Erectus

    The truth is “hate speech” only to those who have something to hide.

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The Challenges Of Recruiting An All-Volunteer Army

The Army is meeting its targets, but the man who runs recruiting says finding qualified candidates in the 17 to 24 age group can be difficult.

August 21 Comment

Syrian Clarinetist Finds A Home For His Music

"Does the clarinet stop a bullet or does it feed a child or does it rebuild a destroyed home?" Kinan Azmeh asks. "Of course it doesn't. But... it can inspire."

August 20 Comment

James Foley Remembered For His ‘Extraordinary Courage’

U.S. officials have confirmed the authenticity of a video showing the beheading of the American journalist.

August 20 6 Comments

L.A. Moves To Arrest Fewer Misbehaving Students

The change in the school district's policy is the culmination of a long fight by judges, government officials, advocates and attorneys.