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Thursday, January 26, 2012

Memos Reveal Israeli Spies Posing As CIA Agents

President Obama touted the U.S. commitment to Israel’s security in his State of the Union speech, saying, “Our iron clad commitment, and I mean ironclad to Israel’s security has meant the closest military cooperation between our two countries in history.”

But an article in Foreign Policy raises some questions about that relationship when it comes to intelligence gathering and Iran.

The article says officers from Israel’s spy agency, Mossad, posed as American CIA agents to recruit members of the terrorist group Jundallah to fight in Israel’s covert war against Iran.

In the intelligence business, it’s called a false flag operation.

The mission happened during the last years of George W. Bush’s administration and it apparently affected cooperation between the U.S. and Israel when President Barack Obama assumed office.

According to intelligence officers who have seen CIA memos about the operation, President Bush went ballistic when he found out.

But author and historian Mark Perry says that the rift caused between the U.S. and Israel has largely been healed now that Barack Obama is president.

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  • Michael

    Posing as the CIA to work with and recuit people who are listed as terrorist by the US?

    Man what a ally

    “But author and historian Mark Perry says that the rift caused between the U.S. and Israel has largely been healed now that Barack Obama is president.”

    Someone say Israeli Lobby?

    • PI Resident

      Agreed. 
      And I wonder if it is illegal to pose as a CIA agent?  What if you or I represented ourselves as CIA Agents?

      Would the man come and take us away?
      If yes, let’s go get those Israelis!
      If not – let’s pretend.

  • Christopher28fair

     
    Anyone who thinks Israel is our friend is just naive.  The Israelis consider themselves superior to everyone and think only in terms of how best to manipulate them to further their cause. This isn’t the first false flag operation the Israelis have run,  and it won’t be the last.
    It’s worth observing that the people who think Israel is our friend are almost always those who have a violent hatred of Muslims and Islam, and think of Israel as a club with which to hit them. The loudest defenders of Israel also have a religious agenda, and are the most ignorant and least well informed of our public figures;  Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and Pat Robertson spring to mind.
    The notion that Israel needs to ‘defend itself’ from Iran reminds me of Hitler’s claim that he had to ‘defend Germany’ from Poland.  In a sense, those too, could be considered ‘false flag’ operations.
     
    Christopher Egli,  author,  ‘The Nicest People on Earth’

    • Manuel

      What a sweeping generalization.  I suppose you would be okay if I were to say, “And it is also worth observing that “the people” who think Israel is our enemy have a violent hatred of Jews and are closet anti-semites (who all have best friends who are Jews). ”  What a load!  And the notion that Israel’s supporters “have a religious agenda, and are the most ignorant and least well informed of our public figures” or are all Republicans … definitely the creation of an over fertile imagination.

    • Robbotnik

      Yep, no preconceived opinions nor prejudicial views there!

  • Manuel

    Whether or not this is true, I suppose the CIA has NEVER engaged itself in such duplicitous actions with an ally.  NEVER!  What righteous indignation.

    • Ravenscrafte

      Yep Manuel, its called selctive history recall.

  • Guest

    Our government really needs to reconsider their foreign policy in the Middle East. We cannot blindly follow allies down the path of conflict and injustice. Once we abandon our principles of justice and fairness, we should not be surprised by the blowback. I think we’d be surprised by the goodwill of the people in that region if we approached the issue in a balanced way. I think the Libyan people are a great example of how quickly rhetoric in the Arab world toward the U.S. can change. In a matter of a few months, the Libyan people went from hating the U.S. to waving the American flag in Tripoli and Bengazi. Positive diplomacy can happen if we truly support people’s aspirations rather than blindly following allies’ aggression.

    • Manuel

      Yeah!  And today the BBC reported that Libyans are now engaged in torture and subsequent killings while holding prisoners. And if they are indeed waving American flags while doing this, I guess don’t be surprised at, what you call, the blowback.  I think you may want to rethink Libya as an ally.  

      • Guest

        I condemn the transitional authorities there for their crimes and for all other transgressions they have committed. But you cannot equate an unelected transitional council, many of whom have dark histories in the Gaddafi regime themselves, to the Libyan people as a whole.

        My point is this: The Middle East is much more than oil and Israel, and the faster we figure that out, the more we will gain from diplomacy in the region. We can also avoid 10 years of war in the region that ruins our economy while we’re at it. And regain some backbone so that when PM Netanyahu visits Congress and the White House, some of our representatives have the courage to criticize him. A balanced foreign policy is the best way to go. We need to hold all sides accountable for their actions, whether Arab, Israeli, or Iranian, and keep an open mind to who our government can work with.

    • Ravenscrafte

      what drugs are you on? they did not wave american flags!! nor did they say much nice except stay out of it its our revelution not yours. Gezus watch the news once in a while!

      • Guest

        They for sure waved British and French flags. Maybe not American flags since President Obama drastically reduced U.S. involvement in the NATO operations due to political reasons only a week or two into the campaign.

        • Guest

          Here’s a clip of Libyans cheering CNN for covering the story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgP0Gro52c8

          And here are Libyan citizens expressing their thanks to France and Britain for their involvement in the NATO campaign:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSlV_ZjgY6s

  • Ravenscrafte

    obviously christofer28unfair is either very young or very muslim. Fact is the muslem world is very ignorant kept in the basement and fed mushroom food. Unfourtunatly the american masses have also become so used to listening to anti jewish retoric which fits the christan mentality of needing to have someone to hate and blame, if its not jews its backs or hispanics or native americans. When it comes to a matter of trust, isreal has plenty of reason not to trust us we rutinely lie to them, and so far this administration has been verry buddy buddy with many of the very most corupt islamic leaders like the one in afghanistan whos no better then a taliban murderer himself. It never fails to amaize me how ignorant the so called” right” is. Spewing religon like it was historical fact, regergitating lies from talking heads like rush rimbowel and the latest fox news political misinformationists.

  • Ss-oaahan

    It is important to note that Mark Perry was a long-time advisor to Yaasar Arafat, who most people consider a terroist leader, and has connections to Al Jezeera and other Arab interest groups. Everything that he says or writes will be biased against Israel and should not be taken as objective reporting or opinion.

  • David Neunuebel

    A couple of things.  1) how do you define terrorism, how do you define a terrorist organization with which you decide not to interact? 2) why would one think that Iran or anyone in the Middle East would have a problem with Zionism?  It only represents a concept of a Jewish State (as I understand it to mean a Jewish majority state from the Jordan river and the Mediterranean Sea),  3) I find it a bit odd that we, the US, determine that it’s justifiable for Israel to defend itself with violence and yet the Palestinians can’t do the same when their “existence” is threatened, and, 4) why is Israel so important that each and every US politician seems to have to bend over backwards to espouse such ridiculous support for Israel?  I mean, okay, but there is nowhere in US politics where such overboard, fall-on-your-face statements occur.  Finally, 5) there is hardly anywhere in the Middle East that the US isn’t considered hypocritical.  It’s quit a joke that the author/guest would suggest that that would be our concern in this particular issue.  I’ve spent over a decade in the Middle East and there is nowhere where we are not considered a hypocrite.

    David Neunuebel
    Santa Barbara, CA 

  • Patriot

    Possible  false flag attack on USS Enterprise?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufdw21ltc-8

  • Susan Christie Woodward

    Robin, “jo” does not mean young girl, or whatever it was he said. It is a Scottish term of endearment. It means, “beloved one” –
    I suggest that tomorrow you play Robert Burns wonderful song “John Anderson, my jo”
    Susan Woodward, New Boston, NH

  • sayid

    hi
    i am from iran i want work usa government

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