90.9 WBUR - Boston's NPR news station
Top Stories:
Here and Now with Robin Young
Public radio's live
midday news program
With sponsorship from
Mathworks - Accelerating the pace of engineering and science
Accelerating the pace
of engineering and science
Thursday, August 14, 2014

NASA Chief On Past And Future Of U.S. Space Program

A Perseid meteor streaks through the Earth's atmosphere, as seen and photographed by astronaut Ron Garan while aboard the International Space Station on August 13, 2011. (NASA)

A Perseid meteor streaks through the Earth’s atmosphere, as seen and photographed by astronaut Ron Garan while aboard the International Space Station on August 13, 2011. (NASA)

Astronaut Charles F. Bolden Jr. is pictured in 1991, in his official NASA portrait. (NASA)

Astronaut Charles F. Bolden Jr. is pictured in 1991, in his official NASA portrait. (NASA)

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden joins Here & Now’s Jeremy Hobson for a wide-ranging conversation about the past and future of NASA’s effort to explore the universe.

Bolden discusses the future of the International Space Station and U.S. cooperation with Russia, and he weighs the chances that NASA will discover life in the Milky Way galaxy.

Bolden says that the U.S. will be able to send astronauts to space again by 2017, with the help of American private industry.

He also describes why he thinks the agency is more inspiring to minority children and girls today than it was during NASA’s height in the 1960s.

What would you like to see NASA do next? Tell us on Facebook or in the comments.

Interview Highlights

On whether Americans should worry about NASA’s partnership with Russia

“I am not concerned, because of the relationship that we have managed to preserve with our partner agency inside Russia, the Russian space agency. I will caveat that by saying that, like us, they’re a part of the government, so one never knows what can happen. But based on the day-to-day relationships and what’s going on with our people, about 30 of them that work in-and-out of the mission control center in Moscow every day, our astronauts who are training at the Gagarin Cosmonaut Center on the outskirts of Moscow, the indications we have are that they are as interested and as enthusiastic as we about maintaining our partnership.”

On using private industry for space travel

“I am certain that our path is the correct path. No other nation is able to do what we’re able to do right now. No other nation has the capability to call on their industry to provide the kinds of services that we can do. Right now, all of our international partners rely on either heavily subsidized or government-run means to do things, and that’s the way the U.S. used to do it, but we don’t need to do that anymore. If you look at what our intelligence community is doing, if you look at what the military is doing, we are leading the way. NASA has demonstrated that U.S. industry is reliable, dependable, and in fact — in relative terms — cheap, compared to what it costs us to maintain the infrastructure to do it all ourselves.”

On inspiring the astronauts of the future

“I was not unlike many young African American kids, young kids of color growing up in the segregated South. We were conditioned to believe that there were limits to what we could do. My mom and dad were teachers and so they tried to make sure that I never put an artificial limitation on myself, and in spite of all their efforts, I did. It took Ron [McNair] to wake me and shake me.”

“I think in many ways we are much more inspiring than we were in the Apollo era. Do you know how many black kids had any hope of becoming an astronaut in the Apollo era? Zero. Do you know how many girls had any hope of becoming an astronaut in the Apollo era? Zero. Why? Because there was no one like them, and they knew you had to be a test pilot and they assumed you had to be white. That is no longer the case. That paradigm was shattered by the space shuttle program, an incredible 30-year program. Everybody talks about its technological accomplishments — let me tell you, as a human being I think its greatest accomplishment was opening the doors of space exploration to everyone on this planet.”


  • Charles Bolden, administrator of NASA. He’s also a retired United States Marine Corps Major General and a former NASA astronaut.

Please follow our community rules when engaging in comment discussion on this site.
  • Michael Wilde

    The ISS may be an international effort. But American Taxpayers have paid $50 billion of the $100 billion dollar cost of the ISS. The other $50 billion was spread through the international community.

  • Sean Lamkin

    Space Elevator!

  • MRod

    I would be inspired by an intensive search for life on Europa and Encelaedus, the moons of Jupiter and Saturn respectively that have oceans of liquid water beneath thick crusts of ice. I would also be inspired by the development of spacecraft that use something like plasma rockets instead of chemical rockets to greatly increase the speed and versatility of spacecraft.

  • Mikey

    Shooting stuff at the sun with a space cannon to get rid of human waste. Oh, and traveling near light speed.

  • kepelsker

    Growing up in Huntsville, Alabama was a gift for me. Huntsville is home to the U.S. Space and Rocket Center as well as the Marshall Space Flight Center. Throughout my childhood NASA sponsored events allowed me to learn about the Mars rovers, Shuttles, and International Space Station while the projects were underway. The ability to go to space and observe our world in a third-person perspective for humanity has changed how we see our home. NASA should continue its outreach to show the potential for the future of humanity in space. The raw resources in our solar system could help us advance without destroying our own habitat in the process. I believe in NASA, and the future of U.S. space travel.

  • Caroline

    We can learn a lot with our own American Private Industry initiatives. Of course, it would be nice to be inclusive of all countries who are interested in space research, but at this time it is more important to expect Mr. Putin to respect other nations democratic aspirations. If part of Ukraine wants to be separate they should vote, not start a war. It seems Russia politics are defeating themselves, not so much others – they work to destroy the very people and economy that could make them strong. Hopefully the people will rise up and kick Putin and all dictators to the curb, and come back to an inclusive view of cooperation, Perestroika.

Robin and Jeremy

Robin Young and Jeremy Hobson host Here & Now, a live two-hour production of NPR and WBUR Boston.

September 15 23 Comments

A Call To Reject Corporal Punishment As Part Of Black Culture

An incident of child abuse by an NFL player has raised questions about the use of corporal punishment as a form of discipline in the African-American community.

September 15 26 Comments

Would You Pay To Get Your Kid Into A Top College?

A San Francisco company charges parents for a consulting package based on the odds their student will get into a certain university, with prices up to a million dollars.

September 12 9 Comments

Senator: Arab Countries ‘Need To Step To The Plate’ In Fight Against ISIS

Mark Begich (D-AK) is one of the few members of Congress speaking out against a key part of President Obama's plan for fighting the Islamic State.

September 12 Comment

Ecuadorian Drilling Damage Inspires Documentary

An American and an Ecuadorian are inspired to help Ecuador heal from decades of drilling and oil spills.