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Friday, February 14, 2014

Texas Sportscaster’s Commentary On Gay Athletes Goes Viral

After former Missouri Tigers defensive lineman Michael Sam, 24, on Sunday revealed that he was gay, some questioned whether his prospects in the NFL would be hurt by the revelation.

Longtime Texas sportscaster Dale Hansen is hoping that’s not the case. He shared an essay on his show this week that has gone viral.

Hansen speaks to Here & Now’s Robin Young about why Michael Sam should be celebrated and gay players should be welcomed in the NFL.

Interview Highlights: Dale Hansen

On feedback he’s received about his remarks

“I was expecting a great deal of negative backlash, and I’ve actually had very little. I’ve had more than 2,600 emails sent to me from almost every state in the union, from Australia, from England, and 95 percent have been supportive, and that’s been not only gratifying, but quite honestly, it’s been somewhat surprising.”

“I do think my contribution was being perceived as a guy from a very conservative state who’s simply an old white guy, and I think it surprised a lot of people that I took this stance, and I think that elevated the debate so that, as you say, it went viral.”

On his hopes for acceptance of gay players

“I do think there’s just a big difference between being in that proverbial closet and being open. I think it’s gonna be a hard road for Michael Sam, but what I am encouraged by is just listening to him talk. He seems to be a young man of great character, of great inner-strength, and if somebody has to pick up this sword and lead this fight, he might be one of the most well-equipped young men to do it. And I certainly hope so, because as we saw in the SportsIllustrated.com article, eight different NFL officials — quoted anonymously, of course — saying that they would not be comfortable with a gay man in the locker room, and yet, they welcome so many others who have committed such heinous crimes. And it just offends me, the hypocrisy of that position. I’m hoping that, obviously, that will begin to change.”

Guest

  • Dale Hansen, sports anchor for WFAA-TV, the ABC affiliate in Dallas, Texas. He also hosts “Dale Hansen’s Sports Special” on Sundays. He tweets @dalehansen.

Transcript

ROBIN YOUNG, HOST:

Well, there's been a lot of reaction this week to the revelation from Missouri defensive lineman and NFL prospect Michael Sam that he is gay. Teammates in his school tweeted support. But some NFL scouts, speaking anonymously to Sports Illustrated, said this would hurt Michael Sam's chances in the spring's NFL draft, to which WFAA Dallas sportscaster Dale Hansen had a response.

Now Dale is old-school. He's 65. He used to be an analyst for the Dallas Cowboys. He's now a sportscaster. Did we mention he's in conservative Texas. We want to make sure you are in full-boar stereotype alert when you hear his essay, and we're going to hear most of it.

He begins in kind of a jocular, sportscasty way, by setting up the scouts' thinking that Sam's draft chances will be hurt, and then he drops this hammer.

DALE HANSEN: You beat a woman and drag her down a flight of stairs, pulling her hair out by the roots, you're the fourth guy taken in the NFL draft. You kill people while driving drunk, that guy's welcome. Players caught in hotel rooms with illegal drugs and prostitutes, we know they're welcome.

You love another man, well now you've gone too far. It wasn't that long ago when we were being told that black players couldn't play in our games because it would be uncomfortable. And even when they finally could, it took several more years before a black man played quarterback because we weren't comfortable with that either.

So many of the same people who used to make that argument, and the many who still do, are the same people who say government should stay out of our lives but then want government in our bedrooms. I've never understood how they feel comfortable laying claim to both sides of that argument.

I'm not always comfortable when a man tells me he's gay; I don't understand his world, but I do understand that he's part of mine. Civil rights activist Audre Lord said it is not our differences that divide us, it is our inability to recognize, accept, and celebrate those differences.

YOUNG: And the crowd went wild. Dale Hansen joins us from his home in Dallas. Dale, what's been the response?

HANSEN: Well, it has been an overwhelming response, and as you mentioned, in conservative Texas, and for the most part I think in many ways in conservative America, I was expecting a great deal of negative backlash, and I've actually had very little. I've had more than 2,600 emails sent to me from almost every state in the union, from Australia, from England, and 95 percent have been very supportive.

And that's been not only gratifying, but quite honestly it's been somewhat surprising.

YOUNG: Well, you went viral, and as you said, you're not used to even getting phone messages.

(LAUGHTER)

HANSEN: Well, and that's the other thing that's actually a little strange to me. Yesterday I got 27 phone messages. And as you mentioned, it did go viral, which I'm going to have to figure out what that means someday.

(LAUGHTER)

HANSEN: I'm not really a high-tech social media kind of person. As you mentioned, I'm a little bit old-school. And I do think my contribution was being perceived as being a guy from a very conservative state, who's simply an old white guy, and I think it surprised a lot of people that I took this stance, and I think that elevated the debate so that, as you say, it went viral. And I really do wish I knew what that meant.

(LAUGHTER)

YOUNG: Well, it means a lot of people saw it. But, you know, part of me thinks shame on those of us who were bracing when we got sent your essay in an email or in a tweet. Shame on us for bracing for the worst because of a stereotype we had of older white men from Texas.

HANSEN: Yeah, well, but this has been a longstanding problem. And again, that's why I loved the quote of Audre Lord. You know, we recognize our differences, but we don't accept our differences, and we certainly don't celebrate our differences. And I think it's been one of the biggest problems is that we simply make assumptions instead of trying to figure out who people really are.

YOUNG: Well, and I have to ask you as somebody who has this long affiliation with football, do you think, as some are saying, that this is, in other ways, the end of an hypocrisy, that people have always known that there were gay players? I mean, you're close with the sport. And also, what do you think the impact is going to be?

HANSEN: Well, I'm anxious to see what the impacts will actually be. I don't think people did now. I mean, some people obviously did because we've had players come out after the fact. But I think there's a huge leap between being a gay player and being hidden, and the huge leap to being an openly gay player. And I think it's the same thing for the fans.

I don't think many fans, who were cheering Jerry Smith and a few others along the way, knew at that time that he was gay. Now after the fact it's somewhat easy to say, well, you know, I really liked him as a player, I didn't have a problem with him as a player, but I do think there's just a big difference between being in that proverbial closet and being open.

And I think it's going to be a hard road for Michael Sam. What I am encouraged by is just listening to him talk. He seems to be young man of great character, of great inner strength. And if somebody has to pick up this sword and lead this fight, he might be one of the most well-equipped young men to do it, and I certainly hope so because I think as we saw in the SportsIllustrated.com article, eight different NFL officials, quoted anonymously of course, saying that they would not be comfortable with a gay man in a locker room, and yet they welcome so many others who have committed such heinous crimes.

And it just offends me the hypocrisy of that position. I'm hoping that obviously that will begin to change.

YOUNG: Well Dale Hansen, you said Michael Sam is the perfect person to take on this challenge. He will have you by his side, and it's quite something. Thanks so much for speaking with us about it.

HANSEN: I appreciate it very much, thank you.

YOUNG: Well, and we appreciate his coming on. We had to fight Ellen DeGeneres for him. You can see him on her show this afternoon. And we'll link you to his commentary at hereandnow.org. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.


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  • Jim Foster

    This guy said exactly what I think about gay football player Michael Sam. Everyone should listen to him before deciding how they feel about this issue.

  • loyal listener

    Anybody know the STD rate of gay men vs. the general population? Look it up, you night be shocked.

    • feettothefire

      why is that relevant?

      • loyal listener

        Well the guy they interviewed said we should celebrate the fact that this man is homosexual. So I thought I would point out one of the statistics about the gay lifestyle. Sorry if the statistics offend you.

        • Fred Fletcher-Fierro

          How did this matter to the story? There are plenty of straight people with STD’s. Most people have at least one and not even know it.

        • feettothefire

          What’s the gay lifestyle? Do they cook? Oh, no! Do they read books? Egad!! How about jobs, do you think they have jobs? Yeah right, huh? I wonder if they go to movies, listen to music, enjoy friendship, and walk their dogs. Ha! Sure they do.

        • Paul

          And how would you know specifically about these statistics, loyal? Any links you care to direct us to? But while you’re at it, let’s post those links about young men and women as well as someone else pointed out. Or are we just simply supposed to go by your word simply because you’d like to just deface the gay population just because you don’t like them?

          And why shouldn’t be the fact that a man who is a draft pick for the NFL who is breaking down walls be celebrated? He definitely ought to be for having the cajones to stand up against people like you.

          • loyal listener

            I posted a link but it looks like NPR deleted it. So just go to Google and type it in yourself please. The information is very easy to find, from multiple credible sources.

          • Rachel Rohr, Here & Now

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    • tomhenning

      If the STD rate is high amoung gay men what does that mean? I think it means they need a little help, perhaps some education when they are teenagers about how to avoid it. You seem to suggest that it means we should hate them, and deny them equal rights.

  • dialyn

    Before you go after the gays, research the rate of STDs in heterosexual teenagers. Ignorance is a great breeding ground for disease. Frankly, if more Texan politicians were like Mr. Hansen, I might have less anger toward the womb obsessed Republicans running that state. They pretend to believe in staying out of people’s personal lives…unless those people are gay or are women. Hypocrites.

  • RAOUL ORNELAS

    Mr. Dale Hansen reminds me of one of those guys (gals too) that turns balloons into all sort of contorted amusing figures that are mythical in proportions but really don’t work when the air is let out. Mr. Hansen, like all radio and T.V. commentators have the gift for B.S. in this case Texas B.S. which is of legendary proportions in Texas or at least east of the Pecos. Apparently homosexuals don’t beat their lovers, don’t drive drunk, don’t use illegal drugs, that these persons are soft by nature of their DNA and will make great football players? So the question I ask is this: When a heterosexual tackles another in a football game is this and act of violence, a sort of therapy session so that he won’t beat his wife or girlfriend come Monday morning and won’t take a hit of cocaine before next Sundays game? Or, when a homosexual football player tackles an opponent is this really a sign of soft love. Will the term rushing the passer metamorphosis into a “crush on the passer”? The problems with all this homosexual debate is this: 90% is for the ratings. It is now hip, thanks to the media and the film industry to practice robust homosexual and lesbian sex. Yet it is these same people that demand we provide a cure for Aids so they may continue their robust homosexual, bisexual, lesbian behaviors.
    Does one really not believe that in 345 B.C. Greece or 5 A.D. Rome that this sort of sexual behavior, which supposedly started out innocently but later became the focus of the ruling classes was the cause for the serious decline of these cultures? Later, these practices progressed into abusing children. Hadrain of Rome is one of the many examples of Rome’s decline because money could buy anything and allowed him to do as he wished with his young lovers. Being an Emperor is the fast track to sexual perversion. Earlier, Alexander the so called great, was preoccupied with all sorts of sexual endeavors that his conquest allowed him to do so.
    When I played football, it is refreshing to know (hopefully) when someone tackled me it was for the love of competition produced through sport and not for the sake of homosexual love.

    • jonathanpulliam

      Frankly, Raoul, I think you may have taken one too many hard hits, because you seem to have scrambled your powers of reasoning.

      • RAOUL ORNELAS

        It is amusing during these times of the reinvention of Greek and Roman sex mores from antiquity that if one does not subscribe to homosexual AKA the gay or lesbian hip scene it is assumed by those with lesser acumen that one has taken to many hard hits (I assume you mean from playing football) that one is some sort of homophobic freak? Wrong! My mind is sound and as active as ever (no concussions from the sport) perhaps it because I played the position of quarterback, nevertheless, I appreciate your gift for rare commentary including your writhing style along with what appears to be a gift for selecting words that are somewhat arcane connected though unusual thought processes which is very interesting. However, one is given to contemplate that you recently came out of the closet?

    • Bob Jones

      Here’s a history lesson: after Emper Constantine I saw a fiery cross in 312 A.D., he would eventually eventually convert to Christianity and subsequently cause Christianity to become much more popular (some argue that were it not for this event, then Christianity may have died out). Only 164 years later (the Roman Empire was 339 years old at this point, or 1120 years if you count the Greek and Roman Empires together) the majority of the Roman Empire fell and was no longer a superpower, where it limped along until finally falling completely only to divide and reappear (in part) as the Holy Roman Empire. Just as Christianity did not necessarily cause the fall of Rome, the “tutorship” you mention does not necessarily mean anything about homosexuality. Sexual and romantic relationships throughout history were diverse. Juliet was 14 years old, while Romeo was about 17 (and they were planning to run away, get married, and have kids) and that was over a THOUSAND years later, and in early China, some people were married to others who were no longer alive. Just because the Greeks and Romans may have been more open about homosexuality AND did questionable things with youth, that does not mean that homosexuality correlates to inappropriate relationships between adults and minors, just as the increased population in Christianity soon before the fall of the Roman Empire doesn’t mean that Christianity caused the nation to fall. Correlation is not the same as causation.

      • RAOUL ORNELAS

        “Sexual and romantic relationships throughout history were diverse.”

        I suppose as long as it is labeled a romantic relationship a Catholic Priest and consenting child is is really just an interlude of young gay innocent love. One cannot read a book concerning antiquity without reading about the subject of homosexuality and pederasty and among the elite classes of Greece and Rome and now America.

        The Emperor Constantine I saw a fiery cross story is not about Constantine’s concern for religion it is about making shrewd decision to keep and expand his power and using religion as a prudent tool to do so. This tool, using religion, further ambitions has been around since men came down from the trees. You can’t win an election in America unless one repeats the mantra of “God Bless America, the only difference between now and the past the Greeks stated may Apollo and Athena grant us victory.

        Lets do it this way: When a gay (homosexual priest abuses a child, is it homosexual love or is pedophilia love? Or, is the subject one of the same? The problem is America, thanks to the film media, drugs and homosexual activity is hip so when one is addicted to this type of lifestyle he or she will defend it until the last dog dies.

        Last: Now that America has taken the homosexual/lesbian route, the rules and penalties for what used to be a man’s game will have to be completely changed. If roughing the passer can proved a love rush will it be a penalty? Will a pile on by all the players be penalty or just a good old fashion Roman/Greek love orgy? I mean the possibilities are endless. Perhaps the better way to address this issue is to have two separate devisions in the NFL. One for homosexuals and one for heterosexuals, at end of the season, the top homosexual team plays the top heterosexual team with lesbians officiating at Super Homosexual/Heterosexual Bowl!

        • Alfie Romeo

          How much do you drink on a daily basis, sir?

          • RAOUL ORNELAS

            I don’t drink “AND” I never smoked a joint!

    • SirLee_V

      Your knowledge of the reasons for the fall of Rome are so divorced from reality as to be pure fantasy. I would suggest you actually study the subject a bit more before making such wild and foolish assertions.

      The same can be said for you extremely inaccurate knowledge of the Greeks and Macedonians. I would suggest you start with the Thebian sacred band.

      • RAOUL ORNELAS

        What part don’t you agree with? I have and still do read Greek and Roman history. The lives of the Greeks, Romans including the Persians provide lessons that are applicable to the problems in America today and why these civilizations did not last long. The decay of moral standards results in all sorts of political problems which cause social problems caused by ambitions people who need power, wealth and abundance of sex that never satisfies. It is not by accident that one often hears from all sides of the intellectual spectrum the age old mantra: “History repeats itself.”

        • SirLee_V

          The fall of the Greeks and Romans had absolutely nothing to do with their sexual practices. Any claim otherwise is pure delusional pseudo-history.

          The greek and roman sexual practices were fairly constant throughout their history. This would include their rise and fall. Thus making it irrelevant and unrelated to the fall of their civilizations. Also, you seem to be under the assumption that they were in power for only a short time. Quiet the contrary, Rome had one of the longest periods of dominate civilization the world has ever seen. Anyone would be lucky to last half that long.

          The Greeks fell, because they failed to unite against outside foes. First the Macedonians then the Romans. It is worth noting that under the rule of both,Greek civilization was widely adopted by their conquerers and actually spread much farther.

          Rome fell due to internal instability caused by their method of selecting their leaders, compounded by massive financial crises caused by the moneyed classes demanding tax exemptions and the need to bribe the army and officials. Throw in a plague or two for good measure. All of which on their own the empire could have survived. But, they failed to adapt to the changing world around them, and in their hubris they fell.

          You will note that absolutely none of this had anything to do with gay sex. In fact several of their best emperors where openly homosexual. The reign of Hadrian was a particularly good one.

          • RAOUL ORNELAS

            “Also, you seem to be under the assumption that they were in power for only a short time”

            The problem with your response is that you assume too much and provide a false minutia of detail without providing real meat for your response, however, your statements are well taken even though they are amiss of
            relevant facts. The very idea the reign of Hadrian was relatively good is a bit of a stretch. I suppose if one was not caught up in one of Hadrian’s proscription lists, his
            reign was somewhat benevolent?!?
            The Greeks including Roman cultures was based on what, appears on certain levels, as a long history of a system which appears more like a modern day mafia operation which, was based on invading other cultures that had wealth an produced items the Greeks and the Romans could use, could pay an annual tribute (taxation) to insure the wealth and Growth of the Greek or Roman
            culture. When the Macedonian Greek Alexander invaded Asia Minor, he stole the Persian treasure, which was immense, in order to fund his psychopathic conquests until he came to India.
            The problem, a reoccurring problem for Alexander, is the Satraps he left behind could never be trusted. After making major inroads into Asia Minor, Alexander began to adopt the life styles of Persians along with their fashion of dress. His Greeks did not like what was they were observing of their leader. The possibility of revolt was always present among the soldiers of Alexander Why? The Persian lifestyle Alexander adopted in total infuriated his men because it
            fueled Alexander’s sexual appetite including his close friends who were always expendable if they did not agree with Alexander. Another interesting aspect of
            this Alexander myth is the Persian army consisted of about one third Greek Macedonian mercenaries who needed jobs that were not available at home.
            Romans were not much different than the Greeks. Yes you are correct, the Romans
            admired the Greeks mainly their arts, their gods including their women and how
            they governed. It was often stated: “The Romans were like wolves if they saw
            something your country produce they wanted it.” The problem with the Greeks and
            the Romans, in order to sustain their voracious appetite for excess, which included a voracious appetites for all sorts of homosexual and pederasty sexual activities including fratricide of ones household; familial members were
            expendable should he or she should be a competitor to one ambitious succession desires, that they lost site of the realities of the day, which was, they did not have the resources to feed their people because the forces needed to farm the land were used up conquering other people for their resources until they finally the absorbent cost of making continuous and perpetual wars broke the bank. Especially Greece, who’s farmland resources were limited, so limited that they needed grain from the Ukraine and from Egypt to sustain their lively hood along with their
            continual war making efforts. The only country that had the wealth, that far acceded the Greeks and the Romans or anyplace in the ancient world was Egypt, a country who’s culture was already 2,700 years old by the time Ptolemy arrived on the scene. Like the Roman wolves, the Greek wolves looked on Egypt as a source of resources in order to continue their mafia operations at home and abroad. It was Ptolemy I Soter, Alexander’s childhood friend and general and possibly one of Alexander’s homosexual lovers who had the genius to keep his ambitions in tack that produced a long secession of the murderous fratricide,
            including errant sexual mores of the Greek history. The Greek Ptolemies ruled Alexander, Egypt from 323 B.C. to 30 B.C. is truly a remarkable story in itself. It was the great resources of Egypt that allowed Octavian to pay the
            war debts of Rome, to pay the army to conquer Antony and finally to subdue Egypt by using the wealth of Egypt to do so.
            The amalgamation of greed, the need for huge amounts of money along voracious deviant sexual practices by the elites who ruled their countries, and forced these deviant mores on the citizens of Greece and Rome, whom
            had no say in the matter, in total, led these cultures to self destruct, however some Greeks, at least saw homosexuality both as a type of deviant behavior and a phenomenon of nature, albeit a deformed nature. Aristotle also accounts for what he called “diseased practices”. Greeks view of Eros as an indiscriminate force implied that
            most people would gratify their imperious desire by means of just about any object available. In the lost play by Euripides Laius, Chrysippus, explains his rape of the boy Chrysippus the act that starts the chain of disaster
            culminating in Oedipus crimes by saying “Nature drove me on.” Ancient Greek natural philosophers also explain homosexuality as a phenomenon resulting either from nature or from individual habit, rather than from arbitrary social constructs.
            Last, there is no substitute in Greek or Roman literature that
            replaces the term homosexuality with the term gay which is now a word corrupted by today’s society in America.
            The very idea that you are able to write, what appears to be a rational response, seasoned by the times, concerning my comments, by reading what seems to indicate, abridged versions of Greek or Roman history without providing
            resources that enables one to check by cross referencing authors who wrote the histories of these people without touching on the subject matter of homosexuality and lesbian behavior practiced by the Greeks, copied and emulated by the Romans whom admired the Greeks is an enigma in itself?
            Whether one is PHd, a lay student or a person with a general interest Greek and Roman history, one cannot open a text on said subject, without reading about homosexual or lesbian activities that steered the ancient world of the Geeks, Romans and Persians into chaotic world, a world which has now become our world because
            Greeks, Romans, Persians and Americans have refused to adapt to world with a moral code that govern aberrant sexual attitudes.
            I only pray to the Gods past in present, that the NFL will now become a kinder, gentler less violent NFL thanks to homosexual and lesbian activity?

    • Reva Cordray Braman

      You are one sick puppy. Do you feel sexual attraction for every woman you are in contact with? I don’t think a player with the skill of Michael Sam is thinking sex when he slams an opponent. Your real problem is a lack of love in your heart for all people, no matter what. The rich have always bought what brings them pleasure, but not all the rich are perverted. There were cruel evil men and women from the beginning of time. When we open our eyes and hearts and minds, we create peace, not hate. There are so many “closeted” members of our society, that I could not even attempt to guess the number. The world was shocked when Rock Hudson was outed. His homosexuality was not the real shock. The fact that those of us outside of Hollywood were so oblivious was the shock. People who have to hide their feelings become different out of fear, not because of the difference. I would bet, if I were a gambler, that you have no idea how many heroes and famous people were gay or bi. Better not shake hands with any more guys. You never know who they in the bedroom. It might come off on you. I wish

      • RAOUL ORNELAS

        “Also, you seem to be under the assumption that they were in power for only a short time”

        The problem with your response is that you assume too much and provide a false minutia of detail without providing real meat for your response, however, your statements are well taken even though they are amiss of
        relevant facts. The very idea the reign of Hadrian was relatively good is a bit of a stretch. I suppose if one was not caught up in one of Hadrian’s proscription lists, his
        reign was somewhat benevolent?!?
        The Greeks including Roman cultures was based on what, appears on certain levels, as a long history of a system which appears more like a modern day mafia operation which, was based on invading other cultures that had wealth an produced items the Greeks and the Romans could use, could pay an annual tribute (taxation) to insure the wealth and Growth of the Greek or Roman
        culture. When the Macedonian Greek Alexander invaded Asia Minor, he stole the Persian treasure, which was immense, in order to fund his psychopathic conquests until he came to India.
        The problem, a reoccurring problem for Alexander, is the Satraps he left behind could never be trusted. After making major inroads into Asia Minor, Alexander began to adopt the life styles of Persians along with their fashion of dress. His Greeks did not like what was they were observing of their leader. The possibility of revolt was always present among the soldiers of Alexander Why? The Persian lifestyle Alexander adopted in total infuriated his men because it
        fueled Alexander’s sexual appetite including his close friends who were always expendable if they did not agree with Alexander. Another interesting aspect of
        this Alexander myth is the Persian army consisted of about one third Greek Macedonian mercenaries who needed jobs that were not available at home.

        Romans were not much different than the Greeks. Yes you are correct, the Romans
        admired the Greeks mainly their arts, their gods including their women and how
        they governed. It was often stated: “The Romans were like wolves if they saw
        something your country produce they wanted it.” The problem with the Greeks and
        the Romans, in order to sustain their voracious appetite for excess, which included a voracious appetites for all sorts of homosexual and pederasty sexual activities including fratricide of ones household; familial members were
        expendable should he or she should be a competitor to one ambitious succession desires, that they lost site of the realities of the day, which was, they did not have the resources to feed their people because the forces needed to farm the land were used up conquering other people for their resources until they finally the absorbent cost of making continuous and perpetual wars broke the bank. Especially Greece, who’s farmland resources were limited, so limited that they needed grain from the Ukraine and from Egypt to sustain their lively hood along with their
        continual war making efforts. The only country that had the wealth, that far acceded the Greeks and the Romans or anyplace in the ancient world was Egypt, a country who’s culture was already 2,700 years old by the time Ptolemy arrived on the scene. Like the Roman wolves, the Greek wolves looked on Egypt as a source of resources in order to continue their mafia operations at home and abroad. It was Ptolemy I Soter, Alexander’s childhood friend and general and possibly one of Alexander’s homosexual lovers who had the genius to keep his ambitions in tack that produced a long secession of the murderous fratricide,
        including errant sexual mores of the Greek history. The Greek Ptolemies ruled Alexander, Egypt from 323 B.C. to 30 B.C. is truly a remarkable story in itself. It was the great resources of Egypt that allowed Octavian to pay the
        war debts of Rome, to pay the army to conquer Antony and finally to subdue Egypt by using the wealth of Egypt to do so.
        The amalgamation of greed, the need for huge amounts of money along voracious deviant sexual practices by the elites who ruled their countries, and forced these deviant mores on the citizens of Greece and Rome, whom
        had no say in the matter, in total, led these cultures to self destruct, however some Greeks, at least saw homosexuality both as a type of deviant behavior and a phenomenon of nature, albeit a deformed nature. Aristotle also accounts for what he called “diseased practices”. Greeks view of Eros as an indiscriminate force implied that
        most people would gratify their imperious desire by means of just about any object available. In the lost play by Euripides Laius, Chrysippus, explains his rape of the boy Chrysippus the act that starts the chain of disaster
        culminating in Oedipus crimes by saying “Nature drove me on.” Ancient Greek natural philosophers also explain homosexuality as a phenomenon resulting either from nature or from individual habit, rather than from arbitrary social constructs.
        Last, there is no substitute in Greek or Roman literature that
        replaces the term homosexuality with the term gay which is now a word corrupted by today’s society in America.
        The very idea that you are able to write, what appears to be a rational response, seasoned by the times, concerning my comments, by reading what seems to indicate, abridged versions of Greek or Roman history without providing
        resources that enables one to check by cross referencing authors who wrote the histories of these people without touching on the subject matter of homosexuality and lesbian behavior practiced by the Greeks, copied and emulated by the Romans whom admired the Greeks is an enigma in itself?

        Whether one is PHd, a lay student or a person with a general interest Greek and Roman history, one cannot open a text on said subject, without reading about homosexual or lesbian activities that steered the ancient world of the Geeks, Romans and Persians into chaotic world, a world which has now become our world because
        Greeks, Romans, Persians and Americans have refused to adapt to world with a moral code that govern aberrant sexual attitudes.
        I only pray to the Gods past in present, that the NFL will now become a kinder, gentler less violent NFL thanks to homosexual and lesbian activity.

  • Frog

    If true, can we say Mr. Hansen is a little #selfserving? and maybe a bit #hypocritical?

    Sportscaster Dale Hansen doesn’t think women belong at the Augusta National Golf Club. “Okay I’m a male chauvinist pig but sometimes – I’m just saying -sometimes it “bothers” me that I have to change my “behavior” because there are women around,”

    http://www.chicktalkdallas.com/blog/?p=6466

    • Frog

      I guess he must have come down off his high horse and got religion after 2012…

      “Hansen says private clubs–especially golf clubs which have a history or racial, gender and religious discrimination–have the right to behave and admit those they choose though he finds racial and gender discrimination “morally reprehensible” and says he is not a part of such clubs.”

      • jonathanpulliam

        Froggy, you and Raoul Ornelas ought to start a circus.

        • Frog

          What’s your point?

        • RAOUL ORNELAS

          We have it is called Circus Pulliam.

      • omgshrimpz .

        “got religion”? The religious are the very group who are pushing the anti-gay bullshit the most.

        • Vito Luigi

          Since when do we “Celebrate” Sin? There is NO Love in Fornicating where we Defecate. This so-called Love is Sterile & Selfish. Homosexual behavior is Disordered Choice. Marriage, by God, is between 1 Man & 1 Woman… It’s only Natural. :)

  • twobearsonewolf

    Gay men have been ( and are currently) playing in plenty of numbers in the NFL. As well as in every other sport in the world. It’s only an issue when we make it one.

  • ferngilly

    What would Coach Taylor do? It’s a guiding principle for us all. Here Mr. Hansen is employing the FNL philosophy to the fullest degree. It’s a happy day when tolerance and acceptance abounds. This was a heart warming thing to listen to on a cold day like today. My sister recently dismissed a name she loved and was considering for her new son as “too gay”, and it took every ounce of self-preservation for me to say, “Well that’s just stupid to think, and something you can’t influence”. These little attitudes of intolerance start at such a minuscule level and translate into something much larger. Regardless of anyone’s orientation, love is a wonderful thing and we should all extend the effort to celebrate it daily.

  • Rcanderson

    Michael Sam came out after it was clear that his detractors would do it anyway. His coming out wasn’t for publicity, but just to be honest, though he was risking his chances to be a 1st draft pick. He also stood to get a huge wave of negativity, but instead, he was given a huge amount of support. Today, his haters wisely spew their bigotry only when they can do so anonymously. Only a few years ago it was the complete opposite. Thank God we have come a long way with understanding equal rights in a very short time. This country is rapidly approaching a time when America truly is a country that treats all men equally and with dignity.

  • Max Cornise

    Could the only reason there’s resistance and opposition to “gays in football” be because of the widespread “down-low” status of many, many players? That murder by Hernandez sure looked like it had sexual undertones. It’s too bad such big tough men are so nelly when it comes to being honest about themselves.

    And the lack of courage to come out has hurt many women whose husbands are in the closet, are HIV and never got tested, infecting their girlfriends or spouses by their deceitful cowardice. This goes beyond football, it is widespread in our culture.

  • Sylvia Muchacha

    You seem very interested in homosexuals. Isn’t that special!

  • Doug

    This video is awesome. Well said. Bravo.

  • rich4321

    I am so delighted Mr. Hansen made that statement. This is a man with foresight.

    To begin with, when someone is gay, it is none of other people’s beeswax. It is their private life. Who give these anti-people the right to judge?

    The great pianist/conductor/composer Leonard Bernstein was gay, Composer Tchaikovsky was gay, look at the contributions they made to the music world. Computer scientist Turing was gay, he cracked the Nazi code so that we won WW2 and his computer research has benefited every single one of us in today’s high tech world. These gay people contribute a lot to humanity.

    Winston Churchill once said, mind is like a window, the tighter you close it, the harder it will open. I wish more people open their windows, look beyond their myopic view,stop judging others with their myopic views but look at the achievements gay people made to to mankind.

  • Vito Luigi

    Since when do we “Celebrate” Sin? There is NO Love in Fornicating where we Defecate. This so-called Love is Sterile & Selfish. Homosexual behavior is Disordered Choice. Marriage, by God, is between 1 Man & 1 Woman… It’s only Natural. :)

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