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Thursday, August 30, 2012

Fact Checking The RNC

Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks at the American Legion National Convention on Wednesday. (AP/Evan Vucci)

Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks at the American Legion National Convention on Wednesday. (AP/Evan Vucci)

Paul Ryan is being chastised by some in the media this morning for being factually challenged in his speech Wednesday night at the RNC. For instance, factcheckers agree that Ryan falsely implied that President Obama broke a promise to prevent a car factory in Ryan’s hometown from closing, when the factory shut down before Obama took office.

And Ryan repeated now-debunked statements about Obama’s proposed Medicare cuts and other Republicans have repeated claims that have been deemed false about the president changing welfare-to-work requirements. A Romney pollster raised eyebrows this week for saying “we’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.” What’s true and what’s not in speeches made at the RNC?

Guest:

  • Angie Drobnic Holan, Deputy PolitiFact editor at the Tampa Bay Times

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  • spiral007

    I always thought facts were ‘things’ that could be verified (objectively); everyone is entitled to their opinion but NOT FACTS.  So, Robin why are we over-complicating this? Has NPR reached a stage where they are afraid to CALL OUT a candidate?  A sad day indeed!

  • Don_B1

    Some interesting other takedowns of the (false) claims the Republicans are making and repeating (until they are believed they hope):

    A tough, honest takedown of Paul Ryan exists on Fox News:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion

    And anyone interested in a fuller exposition on Ryan can follow all the links here:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/

    And don’t forget to find Ryan’s speech on C-SPAN in 2002 in support of George W. Bush’s tax cuts where he states fervently and forthrightly every Keynesian argument (except the name) for stimulus, though mostly tax cuts in a time of recession. It gives his arguments against Obama’s stimulus a new name!

  • J__o__h__n

    The decline of the media’s authority on what is true and what is false is a result of their both sides are equal coverage.  First they came for evolution.  Then they came for global warming . . .

  • J__o__h__n

    Romney (at this point) supports the rights of rape victims to have an abortion but his party platform does not.  He picked a vice presidential candidate who doesn’t.  Who knows what his position will be as he panders to the right wing base.  He used to claim to be pro-choice. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003000884786 Navin R Johnson

    Politifact just doesn’t call a lie a lie often enough.  They have too many different categories in their classification system.  Truth, Lie, and Mixed should be all they use, just like Snopes.  Their

  • Ken Pallante

    It
    is amazing that the young girl told the interviewer that: “She is going to
    believe what the GOP says – regardless of the facts.” Young teabaggers are
    being brought up to lie, lie, lie. So hypocritical and “unchristain.”
    That is why the GOP will lose in the fall:  They are all, pathological, liars. Truth does not
    matter anymore. The days of going to the dictionary (or an encyclopedia) to
    settle a bet are gone. Today’s republicans and tea baggers merely respond that
    the dictionary (or encyclopedia) is “owned by the leftist media.”
    Accordingly, they will not read those publications! I get a big kick out of
    watching the republican clowns eat their young. Almost every single republican
    that I know – and I am surrounded by them here in Missouri — every one of them
    will simply refuse to look at the facts if their ideas or statements are
    challenged. Recently, an email has been making the rounds that claims that
    President Obama is, “….going to paint the White House purple.” When
    I responded to 200+ people on the email list with 4, separate, links that
    proved this was a lie, those that responded all reacted in the exact same way:
    “I refuse to look at those links, Ken, they are owned by George Soros and
    the liberal left.” When I show them that these assertions (about the links
    being “owned” by the liberal left) are false, they insist on
    believing them anyway. Even going so far as to say.”I don’t care what the
    facts or the truth is, I am going to believe the story that I want to believe;
    the story that suits my, preconceived ideas.” The republicans and tea
    baggers will admit that they know they are lying; admit that they are
    furthering on false information and admit that they will say or do anything as
    long as it results in President Obama losing the next election. This former
    republican has left the party forever. I cannot live with liars and thieves and
    idiots. The nuns taught me better than that. Remember, our nation’s decline
    began with President Bush. When the Supreme court allowed that sophomoric dude
    to steal the election, our nation began its downfall. The good news is that
    there are many of us with long memories and we will vote out all republicans at
    the state and federal levels. If a former (30 year) republican like me is
    turned off by the GOP, imagine how the rest feel?

     

    Lost on all of them is the fact that they,
    universally, get their information from FOX or AM radio.

     

    BTW, those of you that want to lob ad hominum
    attacks at me..Just Google the term: “Lying for Jesus.” You will find
    thousands of videos and quotes and articles of folks from the GOP and tea
    baggers saying those exact words I quoted above. This is a well documented
    phenomenon and is not some obscure observation that belongs to me alone (or was
    discovered by me). Also, while educating yourself, research: “Preconceived
    notions and the facts.” Countless studies and surveys confirm that the
    majority of Americans prefer news and information that is in line with their,
    existing, beliefs. Further, the studies prove that those that identify as
    republicans tend to commit this (ignoring the facts) at a ratio of 2 to 1 over
    those that identify themselves as democrats. The sad part? The tea baggers
    reading this will not Google those terms I offered above. As described in the
    first paragraph, they refuse to look at any information that does not conform
    with what they already feel & think.

     

     

     

    • Rich

       I am a Missourian who is done with the Republican party as well.  Notice they are Republicans- not Conservatives.  It’s all about winning elections- not staying true to conservative ideals.  If they throw a billion dollars at the problem of their broken brand, and repeat lies long enough, the lie becomes the “truth”. 

      You can’t argue with today’s Republican. They don’t think for themselves anymore….   Arguing with them is like trying to teach a pig to sing– It annoys the pig and makes you look stupid.

      I have never expected a lot from Democrats, and I am rarely disappointed.  I always expected a lot from Republicans (supposedly the “grown-up” party) and I am consistently disappointed……

      Well, Republicans, I have a brain and I can’t be bought….

      • Ken Pallante

        Rich, I posted a similar comment on the, KC Star, website recently. I actually had over 100 people comment that I, “had to be lying – no former republican would write those words.” That is the larger macro political problem, the teabaggers cannot even conceptualize, or believe or empathize with anyone that has a different world view or a different life experience. They have become so very sheltered.

        • Ken Pallante

          Oh…and if they cannot believe it, it must be false and the opinion must also be discredited as false. Oy Vey!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MHCRYIJLCSGAO5QI4CXS746VAU Duffy

        As a staunch, life-long independent progressive I applaud your change of political heart. However,  in defense of Democrats and liberals, they are the side that brought us fair labor laws, the minimum wage, civil rights, clean air and water, worker safety, rights for the disabled and many, many, MANY more laws and measures theat have improved the quaity of life for ALL Americans, regardless of political affiliation, religion,class or race.  And, in spite of decades of mis-information to the contrary, Democrats have never been weak on defense.  The worst lapse of of national security since WWII occured Sept. 11, 2001, under the watch of Republicans. FDR should take the blame for allowing Pearl Harbor to happen, but I believe he made up for it by defeating the Nazis and saving the entire world (with the help of our military, our allies and Churchill, of course). Democrats have led us into a better world. Have they been fiscally responsible? Not as much as they should have been.  But neither have Republicans.

    • BHA_in_Vermont

      I hope and wish this is true: “That is why the GOP will lose in the fall: ”

      However, the rest of your post details many of the reasons it may not be the case. Mary Lee is going to believe that Obama took the work requirement out of welfare no matter how the facts are presented. I suspect it wouldn’t matter if Romney himself told her it was untrue.

      All that matters is there are enough people who hear and internalize the Romney/Ryan message: “Obama bad, us good” so many times that it is a “fact” and no more detail is needed. There is a roughly 50%/50% split between Obama and Romney. Each side just needs a few more of the “undecided” than the other to believe their message. So you blast your lies, it is a 2 month long infomercial. Daze the voters so they don’t think, they get “the message” and vote accordingly.

      I can’t tell you how many emails I get from the Obama campaign and, I presume, affiliates. I don’t actually know other than I recognize the “famous names”. I delete them without opening. I have no idea how my email ended up in their list. I am not registered as either a Republican nor a Democrat. However I would vote for Mickey Mouse before I would vote for Romney so it doesn’t matter anyway. Plus, I live in Vermont. The state will go for Obama even if I did vote for Romney. But that doesn’t matter either. With the minimum 3 electoral votes, VT is statistically unimportant.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ian-Duckles/100002476898377 Ian Duckles

       While I generally agree with your sentiments, I must disagree with your assertion that these lies will cause the Republicans to lose. Unfortunately, in this post-truth era the facts simply don’t matter anymore and with the right wing and Fox News essentially creating their own “facts” there is nothing to prevent these people from believing whatever they want and voting accordingly.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MHCRYIJLCSGAO5QI4CXS746VAU Duffy

    Facts are not opinions and the media must stop tip-toeing around the issue.  They need to stick it to these liars!

  • Grove

    Angie said that it’s FALSE that the Republicans are against abortion, even in the case of rape or incest. I believe that it is in the Official Republican Party Platform. Also, Paul Ryan has said that he doesn’t believe in abortion in the case of rape or incest. In fact, Ryan called rape – just another method of conception.
    After all of this, Mitt Romney said that he would probably agree with abortion in the case of rape or incest.

    I’m afraid I would have to give Angie a “mostly false” for her characterization of the situation.

  • Chip

    Here’s something I observed which I found interesting. 

    As I listened to Ms. Holan’s (admittedly rushed due, I am sure, to the time constraints of the story) explanations of their ratings of Republican claims, she seldom actually presented an actual fact that refuted the statement.  So much of what she stated were false statements were a matter of interpretation.

    For example.  Despite her claim that they “don’t take sides on the issues”,  she clearly did.  When commenting on the Simpson-Bowles statement, that the administration did nothing with the commission’s report, she pointed out that 1)Ryan was a member and 2) that he voted against the plan’s provisions.  The statement made was that the Commission gave the Administration a report and plan, and that the Administration did nothing with the report.  So tell me:  Is that statement a) true, or b) false?  Because, frankly, claiming that Rep. Ryan uttered a falsehood, with your proof being “he didn’t mention he was on the commission!”, well, now, that’s just ain’t proof.  You took the claim…and attacked the claimer!  I think they called that argument ad hominem back in that logic class I took years ago.

    Next, you took on the claim Rep. Ryan’s claim that the Administration has proposed taking $716 BB out of Medicare as “mostly false”.  The rationale was that the administration took the money in a certain way, and that they were “savings”, and not cuts.  Now, remember, you stated at the outset that you are objective, and that you are not fact-checking for political operatives, but for voters.  Yet here you are, explaining away a removal of funds from Medicare (in the amount of $716BB, in the form of a reduced reimbursements (that would be a cut), and money take away from private insurers running Medicare Advantage plans (that, here in the South Central United States, is generally viewed as a *cut*).  So the claim is rated “mostly false” by your organization, and your excuse is “well, they’re gonna cut it too!”  Bad logic, yet again, and evidence of a political agenda behind the checking.

    So.  Huff/Puff that “They’re not telling the truth”, if you like.  But my goodness, can’t you tell a better one than that?  Those are pretty bad.

    And when we say we are going to ignore you, it isn’t because we are not interested in the truth.  It’s because it’s easier for us to just read what the candidates say, and then look at their numbers (I’ve actually watched Paul Ryan present about the current plan for Medicare, with numbers, cute graphics, and references to the Administration’s own documents, along with a presentation of Ryan’s proposed overhaul, explaining the differences in process and outcome.  It takes 10 minutes, but it sure leaves one educated.  Y’all yelling “That’s a lie!” makes me wonder:  OK, is she talking about what *he* said…or what *she* just said?

    You lost me back with Clarence Thomas.  You routinely pontificate about your objectivity, then show your true colors when asked to speak.  And to yourself, and to those who believe as you do, I am sure you sound objective.  But you’re not.  And we know.  And we stopped listening to you years ago.  So bloviate if you wish about how fair you are.  But unless you show some “Pants On Fire” ratings for the Administration and its operatives next week, and a bunch of them (because most of what is being said about Republicans is at best a selective presentation, and at worst, outright lies), you needn’t bother waiting up for us to come home.  We all view you as too far gone, and we ain’t comin’ back.

  • Chip

    And Ken,

    Teabaggers? Really?  And yet you would expect them (us) to engage you in civil discourse?

    You have an iopinion.  I think (know in my heart of hearts) you’re wrong.  But I am willing to entertain your opinion, and provide cogent reasons when I think you’re wrong.

    You, on the other hand want to insult me.  Your attitude is demeaning, and should be deemed unacceptable in polite (and intelligent) conversation.

    Lester Maddox, when I was a child, would stand around in Atlanta (on the steps of the Capitol building, and in front of his famous restaurant, Pittypat’s Porch) and call people the n-word, who were advocating for civil rights (including my mother, who picketed in front of Rich’s Department Store and got spit on by the passing (white) crowd.  Not because they did anything wrong, but becaue they had the temerity to hold an opinion (in this case, of their intrinsic self-worth) that ran counter to his.  How is your attitude any different?

    So, an assignment.  Compare and contrast your name-calling with that of Lester Maddox, and the rude whites outside of Rich’s Department Store.  Be specific. Give examples.  You have five minutes for a 100-word essay.

    And in case reading skills fail, all should have picked up that I am, in fact, and African American Conservative.  And I know first-hand whereof I speak.

    • J__o__h__n

      Teabagger is what they were calling themselves and is less offensive than calling them tea partiers as that demeans the Boston Tea Party. 

      • Ken Pallante

        Thank you, sir. Well put!

    • Ken Pallante

      Your wrongheaded interpretation of the word “tea bagger” could not
      be more wrong. They have embraced and used that term of identification for over
      3 years. If you would have just got off of your butt and Googled the term “tea
      baggers” you would have found that they embrace the term and use it constantly.
      I have a neighbor 3 doors down that has a: “TEA BAGGER AND PROUD OF IT” sign in
      her front yard. They also have a: “STOP SOCIALISM” sign in their yard. Google
      the term: “The evolution of the word tea bagger” and you will find a site that
      has facts (I know, that is
                 antithetical to your ilk). Just one of them is pasted below.

      http://theweek.com/article/index/202620/the-evolution-of-the-word-tea-bagger

       

      April 14, 2010
      Prominent conservative Andrew Breitbart posts
      a video on the site Big Government in an attempt to reclaim the term.
      “I’m Proud to be a Tea Bagger” currently has over 90,000 views.

                 

  • Pfernandez

    The recap of this portion of Thursday’s program refers to Ryan’s speech at RNC Sunday night. Please get it correct when discussing facts. Ryan spoke Wednesday night at RNC.

  • Jmp

    OK this came about in the very last, what 15min of the show? Amazing, really. And you call yourself a ‘news’ program? A ‘newsy’ program, what? If journalists are not concerned about the accuracy of political statements and policy positions that are at the central basis of the Presidential campaigns? When on earth might they ever be interested? When might that much vaunted  ‘concern for the truth’ really kick in? Oh yeah, when doing local stories on poor folks without lawyers, that’s when the ‘reporters’ will go to the mat trying to find & discover the ‘truth’. Or strangely enough, with the right wing or corporate control of most of the media? Mostly Dems. Did Eliz Warren claim something she was not? Not really, did she benefit from this? Nope, again not really. But hey, That issue consumed the better part of a month of coverage for the MA Senate race. That’s the difference here. Ryan & Romney telling skeins of carefully crafted lies? Just somehow almost beyond your capacity to actually ‘capture’ or explain or even to highlight much.

    So yeah, color me unimpressed. The racist cast of the welfare lie is also not even broached. Neither is this telling incident which was somehow ‘disappeared’ from most news coverage.
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/cnn-camerawoman-nuts-speaks.php

    Why oh why are we spending yet another election season having to dodge the mountains of lies thrown at us by the most powerful plutocrats in the world? All the while the ‘free press’ that’s supposed to hold politicians feet to the fire are somehow wholly incapable of doing so on anything like an ongoing basis? The aspect of Reality and Truth is THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF YOUR JOB! Neglect & ignore it at your peril. Why don’t people read newspapers anymore? They’re tired of being lied to and not seeing even a fraction of the news that they’re missing due to the cosy, crony relations between industry and the elite political class. 

    If you’re unwilling or unable to say up front; ‘Ryan told us several tales that just have never proved true’, or ‘that account of welfare without work was a canard that Reagan used, and was done away with as a Clinton policy in the 1996 welfare reform act. Nothing since then has changed this requirement. Mr. Romney and Ryan have been proven wrong on that claim’. Besides being a well known and used racist ‘dog whistle’ to the rabid right wing base? It happens to be true. What they say & claim is a LIE. If you can’t say that? GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS. You do not belong in what remains of the once great profession of journalism.

    Ditto for the amazing claim by Ryan of the Simpson Bowles debt commission failure. It failed as a direct result of his participation, he did not want it to succeed! He lobbied for it to fail, and refused to vote for it’s recommendations! Just damn amazing here people. We’re seeing the last days of journalism passing before our eyes, truly. If you can’t even try or approach Reporting on reality? Get out of the business, you’re not brave enough or honorable enough to even try. Hence the slow death of journalism continues. JMP     

    • Ken Pallante

      Very well put, sir! Touche’

  • Cannings

    Robin – so happy that you  immediately challenged the young delegate on Obama’s correct position he is not change welfare to work .   I wish more reporters would do that in real time.     Bravo !

    • WorriedfortheCountry

       Well it turns out that the people who actually wrote the  1996 welfare reform law say that the HHS waiver has the potential to gut the law.  Saying the ad is false is misleading and deceitful.   

      My question to the Politifact reporter — if they changed the ad from ‘gut the work requirement’ to ‘potential to gut the work requirement’ would she rate the ad TRUTHFUL?

      Robin should have asked that question but I suspect she didn’t want to know the answer.

  • kathy
    • David S

      Pathetic for expecting the Republican candidate for Vice President to speak the truth?  Five major lies, count ‘em, five.

      If you are so sure you are right with your prescription for America why do you need to lie – or even stretch the truth?  It’s sad what the Republican party has become.

      • WorriedfortheCountry

         No they weren’t lies. 

        Use your critical thinking skills and actually read the fact check and then do your own research.

        There was only one fact checked and the fact checker was WRONG. 

        The rest was political analysis and opinion.  They even admitted Ryan was factually correct yet they gave ‘pants on fire’ for potential hypocrisy.  They are distorting the term ‘fact check’ and it isn’t by accident.

  • Guest

    We are entering really scary times, when facts don’t matter anymore. That philosophy was very effective in 1930s Germany (we better not forget that)!

  • Guest

     That’s the best response you have? No facts, just MORE diversionary “spin” and lies?

    Do you even know what dates, and facts are? Do you know who are first president was? Do you know ANYTHING – teabagger? Where do you learn all this nonsense?

    • reuben dermyer

      Ronald Reagan, duh!

    • WorriedfortheCountry

       You lose all credibility when you call people names.  Did you even read the article?
      The truth will set you free.

  • Guest

    Below was in response to kathy.

  • WorriedfortheCountry

     The so called fact checkers are giving journalism a bad name.  This NPR segment aided and abetted this troubling process.

    Either the Politifact guest is a complete partisan or an ignoramus. The ‘fact checks’ of Ryan’s claims have been thoroughly debunked.  Also, the source of these so called fact checks are taken directly from liberal blogs.

    1) The WI plant idled in June of 2009.  They stopped making SUVs in Dec. 2008 but continued to manufacture light trucks.  Ryan was correct and the ‘fact checkers’ are wrong.  Ryan’s overall point was Obama has broken many promises.  He promised to the workers of that plant, if he was elected then the plant would stay open for 100 years.  A silly promise.  One of many broken promises.   Any technicality about the date of the plant closing is a distraction.

    2) Regarding Simpson Bowles — they say Ryan is factually correct.  Then they go on and point out potential hypocrisy.  This is not fact checking but political analysis.  Worse, they only tell half the story.  They don’t point out why Ryan voted against SB and they also ignore that Ryan has been working to implement many parts of Simpson-Bowles.

    There is a disturbing trend in this election cycle that fact checkers give ratings on obscure items.  The political campaigns used the ‘pants on fire’ rating to attack their opponents on items that weren’t rated by the fact checkers. 

    It is a very deceitful process and does not serve the voters well.

    • Nevar

      The plan to idle the plant was initiated looooooooong before Obama took office. And never mind about all those auto jobs he saved in Detroit by bailing out American car companies, which, by the way, Republicans fought tooth and nail. The entire Romney/Ryan strategy is to nitpick the hell out of Obama, employing such rhetorically questionable techniques as anecdotes, like this dubious claim that Obama killed this factory. 

      Someone can also be factually correct, but framing the truth in such a way that it is being so dishonest as to be lying by omission. That is the case with Ryan and Simpson Bowles. As politicians become more and more clever, more angular in their deceitful practices, fact-checkers have to adapt. I would honestly rather people know that Ryan was being exceedingly deceitful than have fact-checkers adhere to some sophomorically narrow description of their job that has them pipe up only when politicians obviously distort facts.

      The disturbing trend in this election cycle is the audacity of the Republican leadership to lie and distort the truth to make themselves look good, but mostly just to make Obama look bad, because what have THEY done that is good over the last four years? Supposedly this is a referendum on Obama, but what would a referendum on the Republicans look like? Like nothing, that’s what. That’s why their entire strategy is to tear Obama down however they can, lying when they have to, and bending the truth at all other times. And there are people like you to defend them. There are degrees of honesty, and the Republicans are pushing the envelope in an unprecedented fashion. If fact-checkers don’t step up and say something, who will? Lying is lying, whether by omission or commission. Please, get over your persecution complex. 

  • Nevar

    I have to say, you guys are entirely too kind, probably because of paranoid listeners continually accusing you of being liberally biased. You had some gentleman on the show yesterday, an editor from the NY Times maybe, and you literally had to bend his arm to get him to admit which party in this campaign is setting new precedents for lying and grossly warping the truth to make the Obama and the Democratic party look bad. He was actually saying that both sides are bending the truth to their benefit, as though it were equal. Being honest is not being biased, and it’s unfortunate that the media has to pretend equivalence in politics because a minority of listeners lose their marbles at the first sign of “bias.” 

  • http://www.facebook.com/kathyloch Kathy Lochridge

    It is amazing that the Democrats have done everything they can to cover up all the administrated disasters that are taking place without any explanation of their actions, or should I say lack of actions! It is also amazing to me how the Democrats do not even question what is happening here, and abroad as to the concern why our people that have been put in place to help and serve other countries are being killed without question! Cannot understand why people are so blind to the truth of the situations that are taking place. When it is too late and we are all being led out at the will of Controllers that are waiting in place to start this new world order, then you will say what have I done. Oops too late! This election is looked at as a clear choice for the right man, we have gone beyond that. We are headed for disaster like you have never seen before. As far as the young girl below kids have a way of knowing who is telling the truth and who is not! Thank God for smart kids!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kathyloch Kathy Lochridge

    Below is a list of Obama’s documented lies so far with the most recent lies first. If you see we are missing a documented lie Submit the lie here.
    Lies During Fourth Year
    Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations

    State Department
    “Under Gov. Romney’s definition … Donald Trump is a small business.”

    politifact.com
    Because of Obamacare, “over the last two years, health care
    premiums have gone up — it’s true — but they’ve gone up slower than any
    time in the last 50 years.”

    politifact.com
    “I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast
    and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the
    previous administration”

    abcnews.com
    Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.

    Factcheck.org
    My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.

    Factcheck.org
     “I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul
    Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council
    Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way.
    So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this
    farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”

    House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)
    The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now
    I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in
    manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech
    manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means
    supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that
    were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I
    want to insource.

    Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors
    “You Didn’t Build that”

    A few examples

    Lies During Third Year
    I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.

    Youtube
    In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said
    that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight
    years.

    http://www.breitbart.com
    I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever

    Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza
    Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
    Examiner
    “Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”
    Like Raising taxes?
    Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz
    He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.
    GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing
    Dems Rejected Jobs Bill
    You have 80 percent of the American people who support a
    balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an
    approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that
    somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem
    Gallup Poll: Only 69%
    These are obligations that the United States has taken on in
    the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an
    obligation to pay our bills.
    Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama
    Jobs Bill Paid for
    Seems not so much Paid for
    Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance

    Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11
    I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if
    we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the
    money in the coffers to do it.
    American.com
    USA producing more oil than ever before
    Petroleum Insights
    Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
    Department of Homeland Security says 5%
    Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
    National Taxpayers Union
    Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.

    Cnn Interview
    Lies During Second Year
    Obama claimed the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. FEC,
    “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign
    corporations — to spend without limit in our elections.

    nationalreview.com
    No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
    Obama Lies to Keep Czars
    No “boots” on the ground Libya

    Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need
    spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are.  Usually it is
    Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground
    Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly
    brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to
    the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the
    financial crisis.
    Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill
    All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
    Obama Memo
    I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops

    Obama’s Schedule
    The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.

    Campaign and Presidency
    If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it

    TownHall
    “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
    U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.
    ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
    Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans
    We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
    Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010
    Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your
    kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that
    could potentially happen.
    Arizona Immigration Law
    Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.

    Claims never documented
     
    The Health Care Package will pay for itself
    Time
    Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.

    Hmm Immigration?
     
    We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
    Democratic Debate Lies
    Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas

    Video Proof
    I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
    Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.
    I got the Message from Massachusetts
    Daily Bail
    Lies During First Year
    We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or
    created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed
    to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
    AP fact Checker
    Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That
    wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008,
    controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama
    inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final
    months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
    AP fact Checker
    Collective salvation

    Obama calls himself a Christian
    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully
    execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the
    best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the
    United States.

    Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009
    Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
    Associated Press Video
    Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
    Obama Lies
    As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide

    ABC
     
    Recovery Act will save or create jobs
    ABC News
    Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
    Obama Lies
    No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
    CNN
    I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
    Specator.Org
    We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible
    families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments
    and refinance their mortgages.
    Obama Lies
    I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
    NPR
    Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
    Council on Foreign Relations.
    Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.

    Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
    List of Tax Promise Violations
    2008 Campaign Lies
    I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain

    Youtube
    No more wiretapping of citizens
    Youtube
    Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

    News Busters
    I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first
    American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration
    camps

    United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
    Obama campaign would accept public funding
    ABC
    Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
    A Socialist
    Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting
    with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she
    needed to pay for treatment.
    Mounting Heath Care Lies
    Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical

    Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.
    Would have the most transparent administration in History

    Cato Institute
    We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by
    line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that
    those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
    Boston Globe
    I have visited all 57 states.
    Snopes
    I’ll get rid of earmarks
    Source: Any bill passed during presidency
    When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
    Campaign Speech
    My father served in World War II.
    The Videos and the Facts
    Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
    News Video
    Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
    YouTube
    Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.

    He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain
    how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.
    Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
    NPR
    I Won Michigan
    Huffington Post
    I won Nevada
    The Nation
    I don’t Have Lobbyists
    US News
    My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
    Crooks and Liars
    I Have Always Been Against Iraq
    Washington Post
    My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
    CNN
    Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
    Obama Campaign Video
    I Barely Know Rezko
    Sun Times
    My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
    ABC News
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Robin Young and Jeremy Hobson host Here & Now, a live two-hour production of NPR and WBUR Boston.

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