Friday, June 17, 2011

This Fathers Day, A Lesson From One ‘Bad Dad’

Here & Now Guest:

Dave Lieber, “Bad Dad” author


Have you ever wanted to stop the car and tell your kid to walk home? That happened to Dave Lieber. Back in 2008, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram columnist got into an argument with his 11-year-old-son, Austin, while eating breakfast at the local McDonald’s. Lieber lost his temper, told his son to walk the less than one mile home and then drove off.

After cooling down, Lieber drove back to the restaurant but found his son surrounded by police, who were taking statements. About 15 minutes had passed, but Lieber was eventually charged with two felonies and suspended from his column.

He tells Here & Now’s Monica Brady-Myerov that in our smart phone society, your worst moment can become international news. “Everybody has a camera these days and it’s just a hop, skip and a jump from you doing something like yelling at your child or spanking them. Someone pulls out an iPhone camera, films it, the next thing you know, Fox News has is knocking on your door, as happened with me.”

With Fathers’ Day this weekend, Lieber’s book, “Bad Dad,” offers a cautionary tale and describes the media circus that surrounded him and the debate over parenting styles that he sparked.

He also questions whether his investigations of the local police and city council had anything to do with the charges that were filed against him.



Book Excerpt: “Bad Dad”

by Dave Lieber


Chapter One

I first got stopped by an officer from the small-town police department about a month after moving to Texas. My new neighbors in Fort Worth had warned me about a strip of roadway across the street in the neighboring city of Watauga. That strip contained Watauga’s police headquarters, City Hall, the biggest Baptist church in town and a drive-through McDonald’s. A speed trap, they said. I remembered that fact a little too late after I forgot to brake coming down a hill and saw flashing police lights in my rearview mirror. When asked, I told the officer I was new in town, learning my way. He let me go with a warning.

The second time I got summoned by the city came a few weeks later when the town’s “honorary police chief” demanded that I come see him in his office. He was the Watauga city manager and former police chief, and the honorary title allowed him to keep his gun. I knew why he wanted me.

In my new job as a metro columnist for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, I had written my first column about Watauga City Hall. Maybe he liked it. I drove less than a mile from my new house to his City Hall office situated on that strip. Inside, dark-eyed Bill Keating ordered me to sit, then slammed a copy of my newspaper on his desk.

“Don’t you dare write another word about Watauga, Texas, without talking with me first! You got that, son?”

“Yes, I do.”

“I’m serious, son.”

“Yes, sir.”

The third time I got stopped, a police officer pulled me over and asked to see my driver’s license. When he saw my name, he surprised me by introducing himself and shaking my hand. He thanked me for supporting him in a battle with his superiors. Lucky me. I had written a column arguing that after a gallant act he had performed sheltering a young abused girl, he was treated unfairly and punished. After the public learned of his story, they rallied behind him. Before this traffic stop, he and I had never met. We talked by the side of the road. Again—no ticket.

The fourth time came several years later, after writing many more columns about the town’s police and fire departments and city government. By then, I was known among the officers for my writings. Some liked me; others didn’t. Once again, though, I got lucky. The officer who stopped me for speeding let me go with a warning. Later, though, he was scolded by the chief, who heard about it on the police radio. The officer told me later that his chief chewed him out because he wanted to make sure the officer understood the department’s informal rule:

“You never let Dave Lieber go with only a warning.”

Then there was that fifth time. The stop that has made all the difference.

Here’s what I remember:

Aug. 13, 2008

My son Austin, 11, and I are eating breakfast inside that McDonald’s on the strip. He’s my boy, my pride, so much like me. Attentive. Creative. A fast car in the fast lane. I try to get Austin to slow down, but he moves faster than anyone I know. On the basketball court or running down the stairs at home. He can’t stand waiting. He has to keep moving.

On this day, though, things don’t go well for either of us. Austin finishes his pancakes. He wants to go. I’m not done. I start sipping a hot coffee and read the newspaper. This drives him batty. He wants to go home and call a friend so they can play.

“Sit and wait until I’m done, please! I want to finish my coffee.”

“Let’s go, Dad! I want to go now!”

“I’m telling you: sit and wait until I’m done.”

“No, let’s go.” He says it louder. “I want to leave now!”

“Shut up! We’re in a restaurant. Go sit and wait for me at that table. If you don’t, I’m going to let you walk home. You can think about the way you behaved during your walk.”

Several men are sitting at nearby tables by themselves. All have their backs to us. But we are loud enough that they can hear.

Next thing I know, I’m fast-walking out the door. Austin is right behind me. I speed up. He speeds up. Outside in the parking lot, I unlock the car, jump in and then lock the doors before he can get in.

I turn on the engine and back the car out. He’s still pulling on the handle. When he sees the car moving backward, he lets go but chases me for several steps. Then he stops.

He’s standing in the parking lot, crying and bewildered.

I drive away.

Later I learned that several adults gathered around him. One asked Austin if they should call the police. Austin, then 5-foot-3 and capable of walking the 7/10th of a mile, or six blocks, through our neighborhood back to our house, shrugged his shoulders. He wasn’t sure what to do.

I drive up the road to cool down. I call my wife, Karen, at work and tell her what happened. She tells me to turn around and get him. I make a U-turn.

Ten minutes or more have passed. If he’s not at McDonald’s, I’ll cruise the route he would take and make sure he’s headed home. But in front of McDonald’s, as I pull in, I see a small crowd. Several men turn and glare at me.

I see two Watauga police cars. The officers are waiting for me.

So that’s the fifth time I got stopped by Watauga authorities. The one that in the days ahead would make it possible for me to lose so much: my son, my career of 30 years, my job, my good name.

Take your worst 10 minutes of any day. You acted terribly, but maybe nobody knew. Or at least you thought so. Then imagine that everyone finds out. Everyone.

Within days, your foolishness flashes around the world. What you did is featured on the TV news, in newspapers, on radio talk shows and overheated cable-television debates, and in blogs. Everybody has an opinion about you and what you did in those 10 minutes.

Everybody decides whether you are a good dad or a bad dad.

One of the officers greets me by name.

“You’re Dave Lieber, right?”

He asks to see my driver’s license. He tells me that terrible things could have happened to my son while I was gone. He tells me to stand by myself and wait by the front of McDonald’s.

I stand there, like a rock. Eventually, an officer introduces himself by name, but he says it so fast I can’t make it out.

“Here’s what’s going to happen. We’re going to do a report for today’s occurrence, OK? We’ve gathered witness statements from all the witnesses here. We are not going to take any action today with you, which we could. We are going to refer this case to Child Protective Services. We are going to turn it over to our investigation division, and they will give a referral to the district attorney’s office. I don’t know what the outcome of that will be. That’s beyond my area.

“But I just wanted you to be aware of the severity of the circumstances today—I’m sure you probably already are aware of that—and the actions that could take place. We are not going to do that, though, today. And we will leave it up to the process down the road to see what happens. But just keep in mind and be aware that there could be a later date that you will have to answer to a higher cause than us, OK?”

“Yes, sir.”

“So keep that in mind. Is there going to be a problem between you and your son now?”

“No.”

Another officer approaches.

“Obviously, having had to stand here and think of it, you understand everything that could go wrong, and what our responsibilities are as parents?”

“I do. Thank you.”

He says we can go home.

We are in the car, driving home.

“Sorry, Daddy.”

Those are the first words out of Austin’s mouth. I am relieved to hear them.

“Well, there could be some serious stuff coming out of this,” I say. “This will go everywhere.”

He tells me that after I left him and the men gathered around, he said he told them: “It was my fault. I was just being mean.”

One of the men responded, “No, it doesn’t matter what you did. Your dad should never drive off like that.”

He also tells me that when the officers found out who his father is, they called in “a higher officer.”

Driving us home, I look down and see I’m still holding the cup of coffee I bought at the restaurant. The coffee is cold now.

That’s what I remember.

Reprinted by permission of Dave Lieber, copyright 2011

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  • Anonymous

    An 11 year old should be able to walk home.  I’d worry more about the parents letting their children eat McDonalds and then driving them home so they can become obese. 

    • momoftwoboys

      I agree.  I do child protective service work, and this would not even be screened-in for a response unless the child was unsafe in some way (e.g., disabled, inappropriately dressed for the weather).  I used to walk about 8 blocks to and from elementary school in the 1960s and managed OK. 

      • http://www.michaelrichlaw.com/ Kidlaw

        I represent parents who are or have been investigated by child protective services.  This would not have been screened out in Massachusetts, though I agree with J_o_h_n and momoftwoboys that it should have been.

  • Anonymous

    11yo is 5th-6th grade.  I used to walk further than that to school everyday, then to one of my friends’ houses after school, then home in the afternoon, and it was not that long ago.  What a ridiculous series of events.  This man did absolutely nothing wrong.

    My friends and I used to walk more than a mile to the store.

    Maybe we should keep our kids in little bubbles.

  • BlueScreen

    When I was 11 I was walking 3 miles away to friends houses. I knew the entire neighborhood. I don’t think my father would have thought twice about leaving me a mile away, although it probably wouldn’t be an effective punishment.

    @J__o__h__n:disqus  – Hehe, good point.

  • Olorcain2

    Did any of these parents who called the police wait to see if the father was coming back.  I certainly have gotten up and expected kids to follow me.  Of course you always come back.  Besides the kid was 11 not 2 and very capable of walking home.
    @John that is too funny about McDonalds.  I wonder how many of those parents in McDonalds make their children nutitious meals. 

  • Patriciap02

    I know as a young child I’ve acted like a brat and choose not to listen to my dad, and I’ve had him tell me lots of times to get out of the car and walk home and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
    Parents make mistakes, I don’t think he should be called a bad parent or anything!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1251882786 Michael Hüby

    Helicopter parenting by society at it’s best…
    An 11 year old is not able to walk home less than a mile in a subdivision???
    But 7 years later you send them to Afghanistan to teach the world how the world works, right???

  • AL

    What is this world coming to?  I think he did nothing wrong, kids today are handed everything on a silver platter!  I wish more people would realize that there are no more abductions today than years ago, I agree with him about the media getting involved and then resulting in too much media coverage so parents think these things are going to happen to their children if they even play outside!  Kids are not perfect and neither are parents!

  • SAF

    I grew up in Detroit and I walked or rode my bike everywhere. I used to go downtown on the bus with a teenager who lived across the street. I feel so sorry for the children who are not permitted to roam their neighborhood. And I often remind people that adult women are much more vulnerable to attack than children. This author is right; the media make attacks on children seem much more likely than it truly is.

  • BHA in Vermont

    The incident that precipitated this is ridiculous. When I was 11, 44 years ago, I walked 1.2 miles to school and a 1.2 miles back which required crossing 2 major streets.  There were no buses if you lived that ‘close’. What is the problem with an 11 year old walking 7 tenths of a mile?  Heck, grammar school was half a mile from home and I was walking that with my friends when I was 8.

  • Louise

    I agree with John.  We should be far more disturbed about the potential disaster facing us over coming generations – overweight, under-exercised children growing up without problem-solving skills, or the ability to make decisions without parents holding their hand every step of the way.

  • Good enough dad

    Unless the space between McDonald’s and the home is a very dangerous neighborhood, or involves crossing a 10-lane freeway, “Bad Dad” is not in the least bad.  On several occasions I have had to stop my car and wait for my son to cool off because his angry behavior made driving unsafe. 

    Kids who grow up thinking that no matter how they behave there are no consequences are not good candidates for healthy, active adulthood.  As a society, we were way past due to move past the corporal punishment and unchecked sexual abuse of the past.  But the answer is not the opposite extreme, and charges of child abandonment and endangerment are ridiculous.

    And as John suggests, the negative impacts of this overprotectiveness on our society and on kids are real and problematic.  Obesity is one, another is “nature deprivation”.  Follow this link to find out more: http://www.mothernaturesmovie.com/the-film. 

  • Ajohnson

    Let me tell you what I did with my son. I’m relating this story because what’s dangerous is pretty subjective. 

    I live in Anchorage, AK, and one day I was out running in a wooded park near my house. I was on a side trail and I found a nice-sized brown bear foot print. I decided it would be a good science lesson, so I took my son, who was five at the time, to see it along with some plaster of paris.

    It was about a half mile walk there, and when we arrived, we mixed up the plaster of paris, poured it in the print, then played for about a half hour waiting for it to dry. When I took the print out, it broke into a few pieces, so instead of putting it into my back pack, I carried it in my hands on our way out.

    It started to rain on the way out, and my son started whining. He wanted me to carry him, but I had a back pack and a bear print so I said he had to walk. He started dawdling and I started to get frustrated. We had less than a quarter mile to go when I got fed up and kept walking when he started dawdling. I went over a hill and he was out of sight but I kept going until I got to an intersection. I waited for him there, but it took a several minutes. I did get nervous and make voice contact with him, but I don’t think it was my best choice. While I was on a main trail, I was in the woods with a five-year-old and there are moose, bear, and coyote in my area. I suspect there is much more potential danger in my “suburban woods” than in that 11-year-old’s short walk home.

  • Xxx

    It seems as though the father was feeling angry, which is normal and healthy for a parent to feel if his or her child is being disrespectful. Using the phrase “shut up” is just about the only thing the father did that I didn’t agree with. It is important to model how to show respect while in the position of authority. Do I think the police needed to be involved? No, I do not. Do I understand that parents are imperfect just like their children? Yes. Even though he may have used a loud voice and said “shut up,” at least he took action to discipline his child for the child’s good. This situation IS outrageous. The child did need a consequence for his behavior. The community should support a father setting good boundaries with his son. Where was the boy going to walk on his way home? It did not sound like he would have to go through a dangerous neighborhood. The child is athletic. Walking for 15 minutes not abandonment nor is it abuse. The father chose a solid disciplinary act and…almost followed through. The police need to remember what their job is: enforcing the law without discrimination.

  • http://27183.myopenid.com/ Your name

    At 11 I was in jr. high and had to walk about a mile each way to school through Los Angeles.

    My problem is not with your letting an 11 year walk home, my problem is that when I speak to my daughters who are 11 and 13, and ask if they could navigate to various places about a mile away, they usually say they probably couldn’t.

    What!

    That’s what so much car pooling and helicoptering yields.  Kids that really know nothing about the world around them.  That have never explored.

    However, I am more interested in how you got out of the charges.  I don’t think you should have been charged — but the story of how you got out of the charges could be helpful.

    • http://twitter.com/DaveLieber Dave Lieber

      How did I get out of the charges? Huge legal fees. All explained in Bad Dad book, a Hitchcock-like true-story mystery thriller. Please visit http://www.BadDadBook.com

      • http://27183.myopenid.com/ Your name

        I will do so.  Thanks for replying.

  • crtcl

    This father should be severely castigated for taking his son to McDonalds for breakfast! Making the child walk home should be mandatory for any child eating the poisons McDonalds is serving. Fathers and mothers should be outraged that any parent would consider McDonalds appropriate food for their child.

    • TNT LAW

      Is sounds like your being a little sarcastic… I’m not sure, but I did get a good laugh out of it.  I don’t know if we should go so far as to castigate someone for it.  I agree it’s not appropriate nutritional food, but everything in moderation does not hurt.  Maybe the District Attorney who filed charges against Lieber should sit at McDonald’s and hand out arrest warrants.

    • http://www.michaelrichlaw.com/ Kidlaw

      I started to “Like” your comment then thought that if there was a public outcry about fathers taking their kids to McDonald’s for breakfast the Mass. Dept of Children and Families (child protective services) might well start investigating families that dohttp://www.michaelrichlaw.com/

      • http://www.michaelrichlaw.com/ Mike Rich

        I don’t know how my URL got attached to the end of the sentence in my reply a minute ago.  The comment should have ended “… do.”  The URL is http://www.michaelrichlaw.com/

  • TNT LAW

    Mr. Lieber you are not a bad Dad!  The charges against you are ridiculous!  The police did the right thing in letting you leave with your child and take him home.  The District Attorney was the idiot in this case for filing charges.  A child that is being disrespectful and maybe even somewhat out of control allowing him to walk home is a great learning tool showing him that McDonald’s is not an entitlement and neither is riding in your car.  Children have to understand that there is a way to disagree with their parent respectfully.  Parents have to have tools available to them to teach this very important lesson, we as a society have already seen the repercussions of this lesson not being taught by many parents.  Walking home three quarters of a mile to home in their local neighborhood and I’m assuming that if they lived in a bad neighborhood he would not have let him walk home.  This very important lesson his son will not forget!  We need more dads like Dave Lieber.  In this case Mr. Lieber You are  a Good Dad!

  • Common Sense

    Exactly who was being “bad”? Who was wrong? The child, not the father, yet the father was publicly chastised. The result was the father was punished, not the child who’s behavior deserved correction. What kind of  reinforcement is this for the child who will eventually be an adult? And we wonder what is wrong with American society. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/fidafarhoud fidafarhoud

    yes he is all grown up why he cant return home by himself …………..sad story and a mean dad too:(

  • Sprkl

    Not only can the teachers not dicipline the kids of today, but now even the parents cannot for fear of what the ‘brilliant’ authorities can do to the parents and the lawyers will do to teachers.  The persons that are REALLY suffering from these new 21st century government  rules are the children.  Had this been MY child, he would have WANTED to walk home so he could prolong what he knew was going to happen when he arrived home.  Children LEARN to be good citizens from dicipline..not beatings…but old fashioned dicipline.  When is this generation going to learn that????

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